[AT] Hole in exhaust manifold....

[Chuck Saunders]

That's why I got mine, and, er, that's why I still have them. I have the
cure, I just need to find the right ill.
Chuck Saunders
Kansas City MO

On 1/30/07, Larry D Goss <rlgoss at evansville.net> wrote:
>
> No, it's just that when I saw the demo at a show I thought I couldn't live
> without that patching capability, but once I got the rods (four or five
> years ago at this point) I have never found a use for them.  They're
> bundled
> with the Eutectic rod for welding cast iron, a bunch of brass brazing rod,
> and several other filler rods in a vertical storage can I made out of
> several empty propane bottles years ago.  One of these days, I'll find a
> use
> for it.  For now, it has a good home.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Saunders" <gooberdog at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Hole in exhaust manifold....
>
>
> > What are you implying Larry? Sure I have the rods, I just never have a
> > coke
> > can with a hole in it that I see the point in fixing. It's not like I
> was
> > suckered or anything. ;)
> > Chuck Saunders
> > Kansas City MO
> >
> > On 1/30/07, Larry D Goss <rlgoss at evansville.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> LOL!  I suspect there are several of us who have a bundle of those rods
> >> gathering dust out in the shop.  I know I do.  :-)
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> >
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:14 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Hole in exhaust manifold....
> >>
> >>
> >> > Al that's kind of like that guy at the fair or the farm show that
> >> "welds"
> >> > up the bottom of a beer can with his "special" rods.  Ever tried to
> do
> >> it
> >> > yourself?  I have.  I know it can be done I've seen that guy do it
> more
> >> > than once but I can't do it.  I still have some of those rods around
> >> here
> >> > somewhere.  LOL
> >> >
> >> > Charlie
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
> >> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:52 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [AT] Hole in exhaust manifold....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks, George, It's been a while since I had to remember temp. for
> >> >> brazing, soldering, and so forth.  I've never been too good at
> >> >> brazing--seems like I never got things hot enough to make it flow
> >> right.
> >> >> Just need more practice I guess.
> >> >>
> >> >> Al
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> >> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George
> >> Willer
> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:30 PM
> >> >> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> >> >> Subject: RE: [AT] Hole in exhaust manifold....
> >> >>
> >> >> Al,
> >> >>
> >> >> Walt should study more before he offers advice, we know he hasn't
> >> brazed
> >> >> a
> >> >> manifold.  Visible red shows up just a little over 900 F.  An engine
> >> >> with
> >> >> aluminum pistons would melt down long before the manifold got to
> 2000
> >> >> even
> >> >> with the cooling effect of the incoming charge.
> >> >>
> >> >> Copper/zinc (brass) melts at different points depending on the
> alloy.
> >> >> The
> >> >> range is from 1300 F to nearly 2000 F. The cast iron itself would
> melt
> >> >> at
> >> >> around 2300 F.
> >> >>
> >> >> Brazing manifolds isn't for the faint of heart... differential
> cooling
> >> >> causes a lot of cracking... It's very difficult to do.  Ask me how I
> >> >> know.
> >> >>
> >> >> George Willer
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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