[AT] If a manifold

charlie hill chill8 at suddenlink.net
Tue Jan 30 05:20:48 PST 2007


Don't do that Gene.  Just ignore it.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kgw" <gwaugh at wowway.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] If a manifold


> Well, when Walt was being an ass, I posted a note that got me a personal 
> note from Spencer, so I'm not going to do that here----will just leave. 
> Bye to all the neat folks out there, it's always a shame to keep seeing 
> how one bad apple keeps rotting the whole bin.
>
> Gene Waugh
>
> Kevin wrote:
>> we know he hasn't brazed a
>> manifold.  Visible red shows up just a little over 900 F.  An engine with
>> ------------------------------------
>> Now i use a combine manifold off a (715/705 dont rember was a 301 engine 
>> that went on freinds pulling 460) on our Farmall M, and one of the end 
>> ears were broke but the peice was still there. So i got the big idea that 
>> i could save $$$ by brazing it.  I used lots of Borax mule powder a vice 
>> and propane scrappers cutting torch, bronze rod 3/16"
>> Well before I could bolt it on it had to visit the machine shop to cut it 
>> true again ( wish i new abt that goop or glue)
>> $80 dollars and i could bolt it on.
>> I dont see why anyone thats ever done much of anything couldnt braze a 
>> manifold or any iron object.
>> Now one that will really make you literaly make ya pull your hair is a 
>> skillet
>> Once in awhile i get to an auction, and they was a Wagner Sydney, Ohio 
>> square skillet in a box of smuge pots that i won bid on.
>> I throw the skillets in a hot fire to clean out whatever thr PO had used 
>> it for.
>> after abt 15 minutes that thing poped like a gunshot. It was the skillet 
>> poped a crack across the middle 3/4 way and open crack 1/2 inch. If you 
>> think fixing a manifold is hard for whatever reason, you need to try a 
>> skillet. thinking about that skillet, im gonna get out a dozen eggs and 
>> scramble them up in a minute throw in about 1/2 # of cheese and fry up a 
>> couple pounds of jawmeat, pan of biscuits. and a quart of elderberry 
>> jelly some goat milk butter. Gettin low on cholestrol :-)
>> A 3 1/2hp Briggs lawnmower engine will approach 1700f  if ya take off the 
>> muffler, unhitch the governor fillit with gas and start it up let it run 
>> wide open for 15 minutes if its still running. Theres a good chance it 
>> may even be hotter than 1700. and you should know  about aluminum  after 
>> pouring those toy flywheels, I can melt about 1/2 gallon of aluminum at a 
>> time in 10-15 minutes with a little coal an a vacume cleaner.
>> So the Briggs has alumnium alloy piston aluminum block, head so why dont 
>> it melt the head ? If i had a theromometer that register 2000+ i would do 
>> it now just to see. IF  IF IF>> Is spencer let Walt back on the list ?
>> I seen where someone was talking about him Walt was one that told me not 
>> to throw the combine manifold away, to fix it.
>> He was right it worked, just no way around the machine shop.
>> So I kinda bought it anyways in the long run.
>> I am mighty proud you can braze cast by yourself.
>> Dont let others implicate that you cant do nothing, just do it.
>> a broken ear to fix is easy, a crystlized rusted through, casting is 
>> nothing left to braze to. Gotta glue and bake and hope an pray that it 
>> wont burn that glue up, i seen some type material that is supposed to 
>> take the heat and turn like toilet bowl material when baked. an may hold 
>> if it werent right in front of one of the ex ports. At 2000 rpm there is 
>> a lot of pressure mixed in the heat even on a 123
>> I gotta get them egg and bacon frying
>> Wish yall the best with the manifold !
>>
>> Ironman
>> Kevin Mosier
>> 270-388-4052
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