[AT] ford 800 vs 600 steering arm / bellhousing clearance

[Kevin]

So your the MEDIATOR :-)

Good to know if the dog sleepin under the tractor bites befoer ya get too 
close..
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From: "Almost-Running Deere" <deereman1000 at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] ford 800 vs 600 steering arm / bellhousing clearance


We don't need these little boy pissing matches

> From: ihctractor at hotmail.com> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com> Subject: 
> RE: [AT] ford 800 vs 600 steering arm / bellhousing clearance> Date: Thu, 
> 21 Dec 2006 09:30:52 -0700> > WOW! I have only seen one from a distance 
> but now I'm an expert on it. > Sounds like some Mechanics that I have 
> worked with. (If you ever saw one > then you got to be and expert on 
> fixing it.)> > Frances your old 40s Chevy had dip rods so it didn't need 
> high oil pressure > to run. But then you being the top Mechanic that you 
> are you should know > that HUH!!> > John P. Kennedy 
> (Keneedy)> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> 
>  > >From: "Francis Robinson" <robinson at svs.net>> >Reply-To: Antique tractor 
> email discussion group > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>> >To: "Antique 
> tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>> >Subject: 
> RE: [AT] ford 800 vs 600 steering arm / bellhousing clearance> >Date: Thu, 
> 21 Dec 2006 03:35:43 -0500> >> > Hi Chris:> >> > I am only familiar with 
> those one-arm loaders from a distance but I don't> >think gaining a little 
> clearance would be a problem. Our NAA was pretty > >much> >all original 
> but we had a "TO" Ferguson that had a Sherman "over/std/under"> >gearbox 
> installed in its tranny by the dealer. The dealer had bent the > >right> 
>  >side steering box arm out and then back down to gain about an inch and a> 
>  >half of clearance for the shift lever to swing out. The shift pattern 
> was> >like a small upside down "h" and under-drive was out and up. I don't 
> know > >if> >they bent it hot or cold but when we restored that tractor 
> maybe around > >1970> >the unit had been taken out for some years and we 
> bent the arm back into> >shape cold using a ridged conduit bender (heavy 
> wall not thin wall) and it> >took the bending fine. We were surprised how 
> soft it was.> > I don't think I would worry much about a tractor of that 
> vintage having> >that level of oil pressure. As long as there IS always 
> oil pressure that is> >usually plenty. My old 40's Chevy truck IIRC had a 
> factory spec of 15 psi.> >Like you, I do like all the pressure I can get 
> but that gauge could be off> >or maybe the relief valve spring is tired. 
> Of course I'm sure you have> >already considered both of those 
> possibilities. It would be interesting to> >see it after an oil change 
> with some premium oil. I guess you will have to> >buy it to find out... 
> ;-)> >> >> >> >--> >"farmer" - ***** H A P P Y H O L I D A Y S *****> >> 
>  >If you cut a tree plant at least two to replace it...> >> >Francis 
> Robinson> >Central Indiana, USA> >robinson at svs.net> >> >-----Original 
> Message-----> >> >I've bene looking at an 850 down the road, and thinking 
> about getting it to> >hang a spare ford 711 1-arm loader on.> >> >At issue 
> is the clearance between the steering draglink and the bellhousing> 
>  >behind the starter, where a loader bracket will go.> >> >On my 660 there 
> is about 1.5" of clearance between the arm and the> >bellhousing... ont 
> his 850.. there is about 1/2 " of clearance.. thusmaking> >the arm rub the 
> bracket.> >> >At first i thought the 850 had a narrowed axle.. but now 
> that i drove over> >to see it again.. it's fronts are almost inline with 
> the rears.. just like> >my 660.. except that draglink clearance issue... 
> it's puzzling.... does the> >8xx have a bigger bellhousing than the 6xx? 
> ( both are a 5spd.. etc.. )> >> >I guess I can wident he axle onthe 850 
> for some clearance.. or cut and weld> >a piece of bar stock into the 
> draglink to make clearance for the bracket..> >but.. I'm just puzzled at 
> the clearance differences.> >> >Pitman arms and steering arm from the box 
> look oem.. not bend or welded up> >on either unit.> >> >On another note.. 
> the 850 starts easilly.. idles ok, and has 30 psi op at> >mid throttle.. 
> about 20 at idle.> >> >I had hoped for higher oil pressure.. like my naa 
> and 660 have ( 35-55 )..> >but then.. This guy may have 10x30 oil in the 
> sump too.. instead of the 30w> >I run.. etc.. may be old oil as well.> >> 
>  >Though I'm not familiar with the 172 engines.. I'd guess they have the 
> same> >lube internals as the 134's.. etc.> >> >Brakes good.. radiator has 
> some old solder repairs.. but looks like it > >holds> >water fine. No 
> disturbing leaks.. and no water int he engine or hyd oil..> >etc..> >> 
>  >steering is good.. no slack..> >> >comments welcome.> >> >If anyone has 
> both an 800 and 600 they can go look at.. I'd greatly> >appreciate you 
> checking the clearance from the steering draglink rod to the> >boss ont he 
> bellhousing with the 2 threaded holes in it, just aft of the> >starter, 
> where a bracket could bolt to... and then compair to the other > >unit> >/ 
> post info.> >> >Anyone else got hundred series with oil pressure numbers 
> in that range?> >> >Soundguy> >> >> >> >--> >No virus found in this 
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