[Ford-ferguson] Re: Ford-ferguson Digest, Vol 33, Issue 4

Sun Feb 25 19:00:40 PST 2007

The sherman DOES share the tranny lube.. the sherman replaces the tranny 
input shaft.. it gets it's lube thru the beairng...

Look for a seal between the sherman and the transmission.. do ya see one on 
an exploded parts diagram??

Soundguy

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> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:50:49 -0500
> From: Dave Merchant <nesys_com at ameritech.net>
> Subject: [Ford-ferguson] NAA + Sherman
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> I bought an NAA with 3 speed Sherman last summer, runs good, been doing
> small improvements.
>
> One possible bigger issue is an apparent tranny leak.
> There is a small crack on the bottom of the bellhousing, with tranny lube
> leaking out slowly.
> Checked the tranny, and the level was pretty low, but I have no idea how
> long it had been
> since the P.O. had checked it.
>
> The question is, how is the Sherman lube connected to the tranny?
> Is it a separate unit with its own lube, or does lube get thru the end
> bearing from the main tranny?
>
> If it's separate, how do you check + fill it?
>
> I+T is pretty useless as usual, it shows how to fix the Sherman,
> and some tiny muddy diagrams, but doesn't say how the lube works.
>
> I may eventually be asking about tricks for splitting the tractor, but
> maybe not yet.
>
> I "think" the crack in the bellhousing isn't likely to grow, it runs
> fore+aft, but I'm watching it.
>
> Rear end sounds pretty noisy, mostly downhill. I expect the gears are 
> worn,
> but I don't plan on working it too hard. Lube was right up to the check
> hole + looked good.
>
> This is the same NAA we discussed hydraulic fluid on at length last fall.
> We ended up changing the hyd fluid, put in TS's 134-D equivalent,
> and the lift now runs really nice. Dipstick tube was missing, expect 
> that's
> where the water got in.
>
> ...The fluid that came out looked like Mountain Dew...!
>
> The hyd inspection plate has been "modified", there is a big bolt plugging
> a big hole.
> Wonder if somebody had put farmer-fix remote hydraulics on it???
>
>
> Dave Merchant
> kosh at nesys.com
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> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:11:38 -0500
> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] NAA + Sherman
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> Dave Merchant wrote:
>> Warning, possible tractor content!
>>
>> I bought an NAA with 3 speed Sherman last summer, runs good, been doing
>> small improvements.
>>
>> One possible bigger issue is an apparent tranny leak.
>> There is a small crack on the bottom of the bellhousing, with tranny
>> lube leaking out slowly.
> That might mean a bad front transmission seal, and the crack is just
> letting the fluid out - the bell housing should be dry.
>
>> Checked the tranny, and the level was pretty low, but I have no idea how
>> long it had been
>> since the P.O. had checked it.
>>
>> The question is, how is the Sherman lube connected to the tranny?
>> Is it a separate unit with its own lube, or does lube get thru the end
>> bearing from the main tranny?
> The Sherman doesn't share any lubrication with the tractor, as far as I
> know - it is pretty well sealed up. I cannot imagine any way to check or
> fill it without splitting the tractor.
>>
>> If it's separate, how do you check + fill it?
>>
>> I+T is pretty useless as usual, it shows how to fix the Sherman,
>> and some tiny muddy diagrams, but doesn't say how the lube works.
> I believe that the 9N-2N-8N-NAA Newsletter has the reproduction Sherman
> manuals for sale at reasonable prices.
> <http://www.n-news.com/archives.html#Transmissions>
>>
>> I may eventually be asking about tricks for splitting the tractor, but
>> maybe not yet.
> It isn't all that big a deal to split - pretty much the same as any old
> tractor of that era. A smooth floor, a rolling jack, and some way to
> stabilize the front end and support it - 4x4, 6x6 and other cribbing -
> is all you need.
>
> Mike
>>
>
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> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:18:09 EST
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> Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] NAA + Sherman
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> you cannot check the sherman lube, its supposed to self lube via 4  speed
>
> You should only use original oils, not modern
>
> rear ring and pinion easy to fix or adjust
>
> the crack can be fixed
>
> sounds like you need a major tuneup
>
> I have all sherman parts
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> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:28:45 -0500
> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Ford-ferguson] Some ads from the 2/24 Lancaster Farming
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> Some of the more interesting ads from the (free to
> subscribers) Mailbox Markets section of the weekly Lancaster (PA)
> Farming newspaper for 2/24/2007. For the full listing, go to
> <www.lancasterfarming.com>. [my comments, if any, are in brackets]
>
> For Sale:
>
> Yates American table saw $300; Sioux valve grinder; Black & Decker valve
> grinder; IHC #23 sickle mower. Warren Co., 908-475-3330.
>
> Year round cab. All complete. Fits 20 series tractors. Good condition.
> $750. Loudoun Co., 540-338-6552. [That is pretty general - JD? IH?
> Ferguson?]
>
> Steiner 420 diesel tractor with Mc400 rough cut mower attachment $3,500.
> Franklin Co., 717-532-7040.
>
>
> Pepsi machine works good, Maytag wringer washing machines, boiler
> heating system, hot water 115,000btu, used cast iron bathtub. Montg.
> co., 215-628-3892. [I have to wonder how someone winds up with a Pepsi
> machine or why]
>
> John Deere A slaut dash $800. JD A $500. Both $1,200. Not running
> Farmall MTA, JD MT $1,975. Butler co., 724-353-1392.
>
> John Deere 440 loader, $1,400. John Deere 520 3pt, power steering, top
> link, manual, straight, original tractor, $4,200. Lanc. Co. 717-354-7046.
>
> JD B new rubber, fenders, electric start, $2,700. Run or restore. Orange
> Co. 845-692-5394.
>
> JD cab fits 110 thru 140 lawn tractor $400. Farmall Super C with sickle
> bar mower. $2,200. Cumberland Co. 717-258-0533.
>
> Cat D4 PTO unit $950 obo. JD 4039 D. Engine, needs crankshaft $850. JD
> 2640 Engine Parts $400. Bedford Co. 814-766-0074.
>
> D-17 w/fully hyd. loader, will part out AC SC blade, WD-45 D-15 trip
> loaders, A-C parts & equipt. Lanc. Co. 717-284-2640.
>
> Farmall 200, IH96 rake, Deutz 4-star tedder, IH 47 baler,
> air-compressors, tillers, woods mower, dump trailer, 3/4 socket set.
> Chester Co., 610-932-8943.
>
> Farmall F-12 parts for sale, also want to buy Allis-Chalmers G, any
> condition, can pickup. Juniata co., 717-371-7029 anytime.
>
> Farmall H for parts runs OK, bad transmission, no tires and rims
> $400.14x30 rims off Deutz $120. ST. Mary's Co., 301-997-0312.
>
> Farmall H tractor $1,200. 100% Boer bucks. York, PA 717-993-9535.
>
> International Harvester cream separator, stainless steel, ex. cond.
> $300. EZ calf hutches & wires, ex. cond. $150/ea. York Co., 717-993-2919.
>
> Ground driven manure spreader, John Deere model L serial #51. Excellent
> condition. Will deliver $700. Snyder Co., 570-837-6834.
>
> General Electric gas driven welder, F20, Farmall, complete Detroit
> diesel, 5V53 engine, 70,000 miles, Farmall MD, $550 each. Bucks Co.
> 215-766-7823.
>
> FORD snow plows (Sauder) 7' $260 to $450. Tire chains 28 $110.($400
> new). Ford Loader (Sauder) $85. 6' bucket, Ford cultivator 2 row $190.
> Call after 5 p.m. York Co. 717-246-0202.
>
> Ford 1600 compact tractor with loader and 3pt equipment $4,800. MM Ztu
> show tractor $1,375. Oliver Super 77, gas. Union Co., 570-524-2410.
>
> FML M parts, pistons, rods, flywheel, manfold FML 400 parts, rims, cast
> wheels, seat. Located near Pittsburgh. Westmoreland Co. 724-834-7197.
>
> Farmall Super A, runs good, $1,600. Woods L59 belly mower, complete for
> Super A, like new, $1,200. Warren Co., N.J. (908) 496-4409.
>
> Antique construction earth equip, TD6 dozer, TD6 highlift, TD18 dozer
> Cat D8-14A unit & fronts, shovel, backhoe. Cambria Co. 814-495-4564.
>
> Farmall SC, WFE, 3 pt hitch, avg. cond., good tires, work, restore or
> parts, $2,250. 78 Chevy truck 4WD, $500. New 7' 3pt blade, $400. 30
> three pt dirt scoop, $225. Clinton Co. 570-725-3604.
>
> Atlas Floor Drill Press $60. Ford 120 lawn tractor alum. deck $250.
> Sears David Bradley walk behind tractor. Berks Co. 717-933-4721.
>
> 8 ft. front mount snowblower by McKee Bros., double auger, hyd. lift and
> gooseneck $4,100/obo. Lanc. Co., 717-442-4838.[Now that is the kind of
> snowblower I could work with - the three point blowers are a pain in the
> neck]
>
> 1939 WC AC restored $2,000. 1957 WD45 AC restored $3,000. Lanc. Co.,
> 717-684-5483.
>
> 1937 John Deere A, $3,300. Restored 1945 John Deere H, $4,200. Allegany
> Co. 607-356-3694.
>
> 1 1/2 HP John Deere hit and miss motor. Garrett Co. 301-245-4413.
>
> -- 
> Mike Sloane
> Allamuchy NJ
> <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> Website: <www.geocities.com/mikesloane>
> Images: <www.fotki.com/mikesloane>
>
> It's hard to argue against cynics - they always sound smarter
> than optimists because they have so much evidence on their side.
> -- Molly Ivins 1944-2007
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