[AT] And Now For Something Different - A Tractor Problem

Mon Feb 12 06:22:15 PST 2007

John,

Yes that is the one we are talking about.  The '73 snow was worse.  

Since I have been alive, it seems like we get a pretty good sized snow
about every 7-10 years: 73, 80, 88, (first white Christmas we had had in
eastern NC since the 1800's)and the last one was around 98 or 99.  We
are just about due for another one!  

Al

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:15 PM
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Didn't they get a big snow down around Carolina Beach around '80? I had
some 
family that got stranded down there. Obviously the DOT in that area
wasn't 
equipped. I think I remember them saying there were even motor-graders
with 
no cabs---that had to be a cold ride!!!

John Hall
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From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:20 PM
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> Al I think we got about 12 or 13 inches in '80.  The big one was March
of 
> '73.  There was a strecth of the road that I lived on that had tall
pine 
> trees on both sides for about 1/2 mile.   That prevented any drifting
or 
> blowing and the snow was absolutely flat and level all the way through

> that stretch.  I was in the first group of folks that walked out
through 
> it.  We measured 19" in the middle of the roadway.  Since the road had

> some crown in it I suspect it would have measured deeper over on the 
> shoulder of the road.
>
> Back then 4 wd vehicles were few and far between.  We walked out to US
HWY 
> 70 at a point about 7 miles east of New Bern.  There was one rut cut
in 
> the east bound lane and folks were trying to go both ways in that rut.

> Cars were parked as far as you could see in both directions and
everyone 
> was out pushing.  We helped.  We would push a car off into the snow
bank, 
> then pull one coming from the other direction past it and push the
first 
> car back into the roadway where he could go about 1 car length and
have to 
> repeat the proceedure.  It was absolutely a waste of time but what
else do 
> you do. Even wreckers, oil jobber trucks, etc. were stuck.  One of the

> guys that was with us was part owner of a body shop and his wrecker 
> couldn't get to us.
>
> There was not even a rut cut in the west bound lane.  I was standing
in 
> the roadway and happened to look to the east.  I saw this cloud of
snow 
> blowing up from the west bound lane about 2 miles down the road.  We 
> couldn't figure out what it was but it seemed to be getting closer.
After 
> a while we made it out.  It was a Chevy Blazer of the 68-72 vintage.
It 
> was green and light brown 2 tone paint and had big all terain tires.
The 
> driver and the guy riding shotgun were wearing bib overall and caps.
In 
> the back seat was a "gentleman" wearing a top coat and holding a brief

> case on his knees.  They were making about 40 MPH cutting their own
rut 
> over and through that 19 inches of undisturbed snow.  I was impressed.
I 
> knew right then I had to have a 4 wd some day.  I've owned 4wd's ever 
> since about 84 or so and never had to use it in 4wd for snow but one
time 
> and that was about 6 months after I bought the first one.
>
> My impression was that the guy in the rear was wealthy and needed to
get 
> somewhere in a hurry and that he found those guys with that Blazer and

> payed them well to get him out.
>
> Charlie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
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>
>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> How much did you get in March of '80?  I was 5 at the time, but it
was
>> the first "big" (if any) snow I remember.  Lots of chicken and turkey
>> houses collapsed around here.
>>
>> We have pictures of the '73 snow, my folks lost a lot of hogs it got
>> down so cold.  That predates me by about a year ;)
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie
hill
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:52 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] And Now For Something Different - A Tractor Problem
>>
>> Ralph,  I was thinking about that 8 feet of snow up in New York.
>> I've lived in Craven County NC for my entire 56 years.   I believe
that
>> is
>> more snow than has hit the ground here TOTAL in all of that time.  We
>> did
>> have a 19 inch snow in 1973 and a couple in the 1 foot range but
mostly
>> ours
>> are 1 to 2 inches if we get any at all.  None so far this year.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] And Now For Something Different - A Tractor Problem
>>
>>
>>> CEE VILL wrote:
>>>> I have heard of adding isopropyl (dry gas) to transmission / rear
end
>>
>>>> units to bring moisture into suspension in the oil to prevent
freeze
>> up.
>>>> Probably not a good plan for a hydraulic system. For this problem
you
>>
>>>> might try adding Dexron.  Dexron is a premium hydraulic oil with a
>> super
>>>> all season additive package that would hopefully be compatible with
>> your
>>>> hydraulic system.  Once warmed up to emulsify the water, it might
>> keep it
>>>> mixed.
>>>> On the other hand, Ralph Goff might have some really good cold
>> weather
>>>> advise.
>>> Charlie, can't say that I have any ideas for this problem as it is
one
>>
>>> that I have never had much trouble with. I do recall a hydraulic
>> screen
>>> plugging and collapsing from suction in the hydraulic system in the
>>> Cockshutt 50 many years ago. That was just poor maintenance as we
>> should
>>> have changed oil more frequently to eliminate the condensation. With
>> such
>>> a small hydraulic reservoir it was not a big expense compared to the
>> newer
>>> tractors that take nearly a barrel of oil to change the hyd and
trans.
>>> I did get caught with ice in the old (non running) DC4 Case last
>> winter.
>>> Noticed a leaking valve stem on it (chloride) so I thought I'd just
>> jack
>>> it up, rotate the wheel so the stem was at the top. Surprisingly I
>> could
>>> not turn the wheel over at all. Finally realized that there must
have
>> been
>>> enough condensation in the bottom of the housing that the final
drives
>>
>>> were frozen in place. (oil drain and change on the list for when the
>>> weather warms up) :-)
>>> Today was "warmer" at +2F but still too cold for that kind of work.
>>> Sure glad we're not getting the 8 feet of snow that New York is
>> getting.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>>
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