[Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"

[Bob Currie]

Thank you Paul. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Bazzetta" <bazzetta at execpc.com>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"


> Since my first day in he 1990's on ATIS, this tug of war is as shop  
> worn as my Carharts.  For the new guys, here's where it's headed.....
> 
> Guy A "This is OFF topic!"
> Guy B "It started ON topic"
> Guy A "It's a TRACTOR list!"
> Guy B "You can't take away my free speech!'
> Guy A "You still have it, but you agreed to keep it to TRACTORS when  
> you joined here."
> Guy B "this country was founded on.., (insert the gratuitous  
> reference to any political ideology or religion or lack of religion)"
> Guy A "I won't be baited!"
> Guy B "It's (insert ethnic insult) guys like you who are ruining this  
> country!"
> Guy C "I agree with Guy A"
> Guy D "Guy A is a pinhead!"
> Guys E, F, G, H, I... "I remember when this list used to be better."
> Guy J "I'm gone."
> Lurker K "Now you know why I never speak up."
> Spencer "Stop acting like children"
> Guys E,F,G,H,I... 'Thank you Spencer!"
> Guy A "Guy B started it"
> Guy B "Did not."
> Guy A "Did too!"
> Gay Z "My delete key is wearing out!"
> 
> 
> You gotta love it!  It's as predictable as (insert your favorite  
> agricultural or weather event )!
> 
> 
> -Paul
> 
> On Dec 27, 2007, at 1:25 PM, James Moran wrote:
> 
>> Well, members...there it is.  From now on stay "on topic" and free  
>> speech be damned.
>>
>> soffiler at ct.metrocast.net wrote: JM:
>>
>> Strongly DISAGREE.  Just because it *started* with a very
>> legitimate topic for the Farmall list, does not mean it
>> should continue regardless.  This topic has digressed
>> significantly.  As soon as the political rant shows up, it's
>> time to speak up.  Your points are understood, but
>> unfortunately they're a bit naive.  Since I've been around a
>> fairly wide variety of Internet newsgroups, email lists, and
>> Web-based forums for about 15 years now, I can speak with a
>> certain level of experience under my belt, and my input is
>> this:  topics always, always, ALWAYS digress.  It is as
>> predictable as the rising sun.  When there's nothing else to
>> discuss, the digression can often be benign, and
>> occasionally proactive and interesting.  But anyone who has
>> watched this happen literally hundreds of times in the past
>> has witnessed some human nature at work, and I can assure
>> you that when the topic devolves into politics or religion,
>> it's high time to call it quits.  Just my opinion.
>>
>> Steve O.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> From: James Moran
>> To: Farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
>> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:31:15 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>> Steve-
>>> Well, the thread began with tractor owners seeking
>>> solutions to the damage caused by "wildlife" (e.g, mice).
>>> This expanded to concerns over significant and costly
>>> damages from other wildlife (e.g., deer) to crops and
>>> property, plus the dangers associated with highway mishaps
>>> due to human "build out" and lack of adequate management to
>>> control populations. While this is not necessarily "hard
>>> wired" to machinery, based upon the high level of
>>> commentary from members, it MUST be a shared concern and,
>>> IMHO, appropriate for general discussion and provision of
>>> common experiences and solutions. Jim
>>>
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