[Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"

[Tommy Wilson]

Thanks Paul, You're exactly right. I added my two cents to another 
similar post a while back and got hammered for it. But, in the end, I 
too agree with Steve.

And another thing, since some have tried to get the post back to 
being tractor related, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE!!!

Back to being Lurker J,  Tommy

At 11:12 PM 12/27/2007, you wrote:
>Since my first day in he 1990's on ATIS, this tug of war is as shop
>worn as my Carharts.  For the new guys, here's where it's headed.....
>
>Guy A "This is OFF topic!"
>Guy B "It started ON topic"
>Guy A "It's a TRACTOR list!"
>Guy B "You can't take away my free speech!'
>Guy A "You still have it, but you agreed to keep it to TRACTORS when
>you joined here."
>Guy B "this country was founded on.., (insert the gratuitous
>reference to any political ideology or religion or lack of religion)"
>Guy A "I won't be baited!"
>Guy B "It's (insert ethnic insult) guys like you who are ruining this
>country!"
>Guy C "I agree with Guy A"
>Guy D "Guy A is a pinhead!"
>Guys E, F, G, H, I... "I remember when this list used to be better."
>Guy J "I'm gone."
>Lurker K "Now you know why I never speak up."
>Spencer "Stop acting like children"
>Guys E,F,G,H,I... 'Thank you Spencer!"
>Guy A "Guy B started it"
>Guy B "Did not."
>Guy A "Did too!"
>Gay Z "My delete key is wearing out!"
>
>
>You gotta love it!  It's as predictable as (insert your favorite
>agricultural or weather event )!
>
>
>-Paul
>
>On Dec 27, 2007, at 1:25 PM, James Moran wrote:
>
> > Well, members...there it is.  From now on stay "on topic" and free
> > speech be damned.
> >
> > soffiler at ct.metrocast.net wrote: JM:
> >
> > Strongly DISAGREE.  Just because it *started* with a very
> > legitimate topic for the Farmall list, does not mean it
> > should continue regardless.  This topic has digressed
> > significantly.  As soon as the political rant shows up, it's
> > time to speak up.  Your points are understood, but
> > unfortunately they're a bit naive.  Since I've been around a
> > fairly wide variety of Internet newsgroups, email lists, and
> > Web-based forums for about 15 years now, I can speak with a
> > certain level of experience under my belt, and my input is
> > this:  topics always, always, ALWAYS digress.  It is as
> > predictable as the rising sun.  When there's nothing else to
> > discuss, the digression can often be benign, and
> > occasionally proactive and interesting.  But anyone who has
> > watched this happen literally hundreds of times in the past
> > has witnessed some human nature at work, and I can assure
> > you that when the topic devolves into politics or religion,
> > it's high time to call it quits.  Just my opinion.
> >
> > Steve O.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message Follows -----
> > From: James Moran
> > To: Farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
> > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:31:15 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >> Steve-
> >> Well, the thread began with tractor owners seeking
> >> solutions to the damage caused by "wildlife" (e.g, mice).
> >> This expanded to concerns over significant and costly
> >> damages from other wildlife (e.g., deer) to crops and
> >> property, plus the dangers associated with highway mishaps
> >> due to human "build out" and lack of adequate management to
> >> control populations. While this is not necessarily "hard
> >> wired" to machinery, based upon the high level of
> >> commentary from members, it MUST be a shared concern and,
> >> IMHO, appropriate for general discussion and provision of
> >> common experiences and solutions. Jim
> >>
> >>
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Tommy Wilson
Warrenton, VA
1948 IH Cub
1950 IH H
1950 JD AR
1951 JD B
1952 IH SC