[Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"

[soffiler at ct.metrocast.net]

I'm not an admin, and I have no powers other than the words
I use to state my own opinion.  Please don't twist my words
into something I did not say.  Maybe you should re-read my
words, carefully, and think about your response, JM.  For
example, I specifically did NOT say we must remain on-topic,
now did I?   Try this part specifically:  

"...topics always, always, ALWAYS digress.  It
is as predictable as the rising sun.  When there's nothing
else to discuss, the digression can often be benign, and
occasionally proactive and interesting..."

That sounds like my opinion is that off-topic digressions
can be a good thing.

And here's my so-called limit on  your free speech:

"...I can assure
you that when the topic devolves into politics or religion,
it's high time to call it quits..."

Once again, this is stated as my OPINION.


Steve O.


----- Original Message Follows -----
From: James Moran <jrmoraninc at yahoo.com>
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
<farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Subject: Re: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:25:04 -0800 (PST)

>Well, members...there it is.  From now on stay "on topic"
>and free speech be damned.
>
>soffiler at ct.metrocast.net wrote: JM:
>
>Strongly DISAGREE.  Just because it *started* with a very
>legitimate topic for the Farmall list, does not mean it
>should continue regardless.  This topic has digressed
>significantly.  As soon as the political rant shows up,
>it's time to speak up.  Your points are understood, but
>unfortunately they're a bit naive.  Since I've been around
>a fairly wide variety of Internet newsgroups, email lists,
>and Web-based forums for about 15 years now, I can speak
>with a certain level of experience under my belt, and my
>input is this:  topics always, always, ALWAYS digress.  It
>is as predictable as the rising sun.  When there's nothing
>else to discuss, the digression can often be benign, and
>occasionally proactive and interesting.  But anyone who has
>watched this happen literally hundreds of times in the past
>has witnessed some human nature at work, and I can assure
>you that when the topic devolves into politics or religion,
>it's high time to call it quits.  Just my opinion.
>
>Steve O.
>
>
>----- Original Message Follows -----
>From: James Moran 
>To: Farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
>Subject: [Farmall] reply to Steve O's "objection"
>Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:31:15 -0800 (PST)
>
>>Steve-
>>Well, the thread began with tractor owners seeking
>>solutions to the damage caused by "wildlife" (e.g, mice). 
>>This expanded to concerns over significant and costly
>>damages from other wildlife (e.g., deer) to crops and
>>property, plus the dangers associated with highway mishaps
>>due to human "build out" and lack of adequate management
>>to control populations. While this is not necessarily
>>"hard wired" to machinery, based upon the high level of
>>commentary from members, it MUST be a shared concern and,
>>IMHO, appropriate for general discussion and provision of
>>common experiences and solutions. Jim
>>
>>       
>>---------------------------------
>>Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
>>_______________________________________________
>>Farmall mailing list
>>http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>_______________________________________________
>Farmall mailing list
>http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
>
>       
>---------------------------------
>Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast
>with Yahoo! Search.
>_______________________________________________ Farmall
>mailing list
>http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall