[Farmall] I hate mice

[James Moran]

Bob and all-
Well, the DEC "agent" came for a visit....nice fellow, spent an hour or so looking around.  Bottom line, no liberal nuisance permit.  I got something of what seemed to be a "canned speech" about excessive deer populations, suburban sprawl, and so forth.  He suggested that I (a) increase the height of my pool fence enclosure, (b) put up "snow fence" perimeter about six feet in parallel to the permanent fence, (c) mix up a concoction of milk, egg, and dish washing detergent and spraying about.  If what I would judge to be a "bad situation" was to come up again, I would be "justified" in making a kill.  However, to simply "pop them off" at random would not be condoned.
There it is.
JM

Bob Currie <tracturs at att.net> wrote: What is the DEC?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Moran" 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice


>I already related to member Mike Sloane what happened at our house last 
>week (deer-wise).   Here are the broad strokes for the rest of you.....
> My wife and I get up at about 5 AM daily and, of course, it stays still 
> quite dark at this time of year (things don't brighten up until maybe 7 
> AM).  We have been having more deer problems than usual.  Behind our house 
> is an in ground gunite pool which is "closed" with a winter cover (some 
> water from rainfall sits on top of it, of course and it is now frozen). 
> This pool has been in place for well over twenty years and it is enclosed 
> by a wooden fence that I built all that time ago.  It consists of "top and 
> bottom" 2x4 horizontal cross member sections secured between 4x4 posts, 
> encased in concrete.  Between the horizontal lumber, vertical 1x1 slats 
> complete the enclosure, along with a gate that is chained closed.
> Anyway, deer (this year) have been leaping the fence (four feet high or a 
> little more) and getting inside of the pool area.  They always came up 
> close to the house and would nibble the plantings my wife had placed 
> around the outside of the pool fence, but had never venture inside of the 
> pool area.  I had noticed this atypical behavior and had called the DEC 
> about it.  I got some ridiculous "advice" from them over the phone, but I 
> DID report this, as I was concerned that a deer would step onto the pool 
> surface itself and, if things thawed, would break through and cause some 
> serious trouble.
> On this past Friday, we got us as usual and my wife left for school around 
> 6:30.  When the sun came up, I looked out of the window only to see a deer 
> wedged between a fence post and one of the vertical slats.  It was 
> "half-in/half-out" and still very much alive.  It was thrashing about and 
> obviously in distress.  I thought about just shooting it (I am NOT a 
> hunter and do NOT care for venison, BTW), but decided, rather, to call the 
> DEC.  After about an hour, an officer showed up and we went back to take a 
> look...he was even considering, maybe, trying to "free" the deer (a 
> "button buck" he told me...about a year old).  Upon examination, he chose 
> to shoot the deer and the remains were hauled out to the road where the 
> town highway department collect same.  There was plenty of damage as a 
> result of this and why the damn deer elected to try to "bust through" the 
> tight confines of the fence, I cannot say.
> I know that this has been a long-winded story.  This day (12/26) some 
> authoritative fellow is going to pay me a visit.  My goal is a liberal 
> "nuisance permit" to cull the herd(s).  I have friends who hunt and enjoy 
> the meat.  We will see what this guy says.
> Uggh!
> Jim
>
>
> Al Jones  wrote: Coyotes....
>
> We have em around here John.  Can't tell if they've made a dent in the
> deer population yet, but if we MUST have coyotes, I hope they eat all of
> 'em.  I'm not real crazy about the coyotes mind you, but if they'd eat
> about half the deer in eastern NC--make that 2/3 of them--I could learn
> to live with them.  Either that, or I hope the deer eat all the yuppies'
> bushes and grass in Raleigh, Cary, Chapel Hill, and Charlotte. Then
> maybe the powers that be will start to care....
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John
> Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:29 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Farmall] I hate mice
>
> What I want is a critter that will take care of the deer!
>
> John Hall
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