[AT] oil for old engines

[Skip Cleveland]

Most old tractor engines didn't have a whole lot of valve spring pressure 
and what ever it did have, is probably mostly gone by now so, the high loads 
mentioned on flat tappet cams is probably not going to be an issue on the 
old tractors anyway.
The cam lobes are probably worn down too. So there
.

Skip.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <JTakemoto at wildblue.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] oil for old engines


> Farmer and Ralf,  One thing that I have learned over the years is that
> when ever there is something new on the market there are plenty of
> Naysayers who can come up with tons of reasons and lots of phony data to
> back it up to put it down. I think some people just like to see just how
> far they can push some Crazy Idea.  Remember when they said that if we
> used the new detergent oil in out old cars it would plug up the galleries
> and ruin the engines, have you seen any ruined from using the new oil.
> Funny thing people will go to Walmart and buy 30 weight oil thinking that
> it is non-detergent. HA! read the labels I do, 99 percent of the 30 and 40
> and 50 weight is detergent oil.
> J.
>
>
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >
>>>
>>>> Ralph I wouldn't get to excited about it, all that junk in your oil
>>>> didn't
>>>> do much to help it anyway. The modern stuff can run on the new stuff
>>>> with
>>>> there very tight tolerances then our old stuff shouldn't have any
>>>> trouble
>>>> at all. sometimes I think some people just have to much time on their
>>>> hands and have to dream up these things to drive us nuts.
>>>> J.
>>>
>>> I really hope you are right about that. Maybe it will be the same as the
>>> unleaded fuel debate of a few years ago. When we were warned of the
>>> valve
>>> seat recession that would occur in the older engines if we burned
>>> unleaded
>>> gas. For a while I used to add "valve safe" to all my older engines fuel
>>> tanks but eventually quit. I have yet to see any problems with the
>>> valves
>>> on
>>> engines new or old.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>
>>     That is especially true of all those old tractors that only run long
>> enough each year to make a trek from the tool shed to the trailer to go 
>> to
>> a
>> show...   :-)   Those of us that have worked many of these old tractors
>> from
>> the time they were new usually take such warnings with a huge grain of
>> salt.
>>
>>     This thread reminded me of a fellow that we rented a farm across the
>> road from in the 1950's. We furnished almost all of the equipment but
>> since
>> we made all of the hay for his beef herd (and a lot of other little
>> considerations) he furnished a combine (Deere 12-A) and one tractor for
>> using on both farms. The first was a Deere MC which was traded for a 40-C
>> which was replaced by a IHC 300-U. He was still living in Indy then and
>> coming to the farm to play on weekends (he had plenty of money). He would
>> back the tractor out of the barn and change the oil and filter and grease
>> it. He did that week after week for years. The funny part was that many
>> weeks the tractor had not even been started that week...   :-)  After
>> several years my father finally convinced him to use the hour meter for
>> lube
>> changes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> "farmer"
>>
>> When you reach the end of your rope
>>  tie a knot and hang on...
>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> Central Indiana, USA
>> robinson at svs.net
>>
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