[AT] JD 60 manifold gasket

Richard Fink Sr nancydick at pennswoods.net
Mon May 1 07:30:31 PDT 2006


Ken the last part of your message[ can't be done] opened and old saying [ 
in my dead brain ] Thinks that can't be done we do right away the 
impossible will take a little longer.
R Fink
PA



At 07:46 AM 4/30/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Walt,
>    I got that manifold hot enough that it burned through... is that
>hot enough for you??? On that set of headers ('79 Camaro) I ran it on
>the lean side (19 MPG highway, 350 chevy, 65+ MPH) and had put one of
>the fiberglass "patches" around it next to #6 spark plug to prevent
>burning the boot off the plug and shorting out the plug wire. It
>burned through at the boot because the heat couldn't get out of the
>header tube and we ended up cutting away and welding in a new piece of
>tube, radiused differently to clear the spark plug.
>     Certainly it would have made sense to machine the surface flat
>but that would not work on a cheap set of headers... there isn't
>anything flat ON them. So I used a different method and it worked, in
>spite of your claims that it cannot. I drove that car over 200K miles
>on that engine rebuild with that set of headers and I still have it
>parked here. You're welcome to come by and visit and I will show it to
>you... AND THE HEADERS SEALED WITH SILICONE ULTRA COPPER.
>    I DO know exhaust gets hot. I've learned to respect it and deal
>with it in ways that are different than you. But don't tell me it
>won't work WHEN I HAVE THE PROOF. I think most folks agree that
>machining the parts flat is the high road, but as you inferred,
>sometimes you cannot get the parts necessary. I am pointing to a
>different option. You might find I have made it my life's work to take
>on jobs that "can't be done" and I take great pride in proving it can
>be done, by lunchtime.
>
>Ken in AZ
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>On 4/29/06, DAVIESW739 at aol.com <DAVIESW739 at aol.com> wrote:
>>Ken you get that exhaust temp up to red hot and see if your high temp stuff
>>will hold.  These older tractors have a bad habit of running very 
>>hot  exhaust
>>manifold.  The best solution to a good seal is proper preparation  and
>>correct gaskets these will last a long time. I know everyone wants a 
>>short  cut but
>>why do it that way and take a chance on something else happening like
>>cracking the manifold. You just can't find these parts lying about all 
>>over the
>>place you know what I mean.
>>Someone said to have the manifold machined flat I think that's about the
>>only good advice I have seen so far on the list about this.
>>I have two manifolds for my Case LA both are cracked due to heat and
>>improper installation.
>>I not trying to start something here I just want those who are new to this
>>type of work what is the best way to go about it.  Sometime you just  have to
>>bite the bullet and spend the extra money to do something correctly.
>>Have you ever seen any of these new fangled sealants on something that came
>>from the factory. They don't use them and I don't unless they specifically
>>call  for it.  I have never seen anything other than a gasket on an exhaust
>>manifold.
>>
>>Walt  Davies
>>Cooper Hollow Farm
>>Monmouth, OR 97361
>>503 623-0460
>>
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