[AT] was Ralph's rotary mower(now fuel price)

[Lyle Myles]

This is something I do not like to get into but our great government wants
to go fight wars that have no true meaning to help the American people. The
disabled have to wait years before our government will give them any help
and the states only give a person $115.00 a month to pay rent, utilities and
personal items. Our government has lost touch with its people and they seem
to be more concern about feeding and helping the world before they want to
help themselves. The people knew twenty years ago that oil was becoming
short and they wait until the last minute to find an alternate fuel source
and I feel that it is now too late. If the government will not take action
then they will force the people to. What does this mean; well they have
always said the worse war we would ever see again is another Civil War. Not
the North against the South but the people against government. We have spent
billions and billions of dollars in Iraq and the people do not want us
there. If we as our government wants to spend money then lets go in and take
over the oil countries and this time instead of feeling sorry for them keep
the darn oil and tell them to go to Hell and let us be the ones that dictate
oil prices. There will be plenty of folks who think fighting is wrong and
I'd be the first one to agree with you. But we now must face the music. It
is not only the farms that are going down the drain but look at the National
average of people losing their homes, look at how many good jobs have left
our country. Fifthteen years ago our economy was set up to where the average
wage was well aver fourteen dollars and hours and this keeps going up year
after year. The problem with this is that our people now only average nine
dollars an hour and that is why it takes both the husband and wife working
to make ends meet. If you are single you can bet your ass that when you die
you will be just as broke as you were when you went out and worked every
day. People who make less than $300 a week will have to decide rather to pay
rent or gas to get to work. Yes things will go bust and a depression is just
around the corner and we have a government who does not give a damn for the
working man except to tax him to death.  

Lyle Myles

May the Lord be with each and everyone this beautiful day that the Lord has
given each and every one of us to enjoy and behold!

 


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:33 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] was Ralph's rotary mower(now fuel price)

This is just a small musing about the real cost of these fuel prices I do 
not want to start a bitch session, just discussion.  If I knew the answer to

these questions......

We used to use about 50 gallons of diesel a weekend building up things 
around the place, and no telling how much gasoline.  We were always 
diverting runoff to prevent erosion, hauling some broke concrete to fill in 
a ditch, moving some shale for a roadbed to prevent rutting, mowing the 
borrow ditch, grinding a little feed, burying a water line or putting in a 
culvert, etc.

Now after being hit with a dollar more for fuel from last year and it up 
$0.60 from the year before, we just do not do anything unless it is 
absolutely necessary.  The 4 wheelers are used for all transportation and 
most work and the pickup and truck only if we have to haul something really 
heavy that we can't drag with the 4 wheeler or we have to get out on the 
road (more than a mile).  I used to haul tractors and equipment in from all 
over the state, but now, I just can't justify the fuel cost.  I hauled off 
14 head of sheep last month, and after the fleecing I got from the sale barn

($175) , I got one at the fuel pump($110).  Net result $65 for 14 head....

Not to mention that I just do not build anything unless it is also 
absolutely necessary due to the high iron prices.  I was going to open up a 
fabrication shop upon retirement, but that is now out of the question. 
Retirement may also be since my monthly gas bill went up about $300.  Trips 
into town are planned much better now, but it still costs way too much..

My question I am posing is: what is the real cost of these high fuel prices?

If we forego conservation practices or maintenance due to it just being too 
expensive, how long will it take until our farms are run down and if left 
long enough, just erode away.  Western OK is a prime example.  There is land

out there being taken over by Cedar trees and canyons.  The new crop is 
hunting leases, but the land is now just one canyon after another.  The high

cost of fuel and equipment is the biggest reason landowners cannot afford to

clear and repair.

Of course the snowball effect of all this is going to be one great big 
recession.  Our economy is being driven by mortgage monies.  Folks have sold

homes on the coasts and moving here where housing is lower cost and 
mortgages are low enough, they have some cashed out equity.  What is gonna 
happen when that equity gets totally used up??  Again, recession, or 
depression.  I think the difference is just who is out of a job.

Does anyone want to go out on a limb and predict when this will happen.  Or 
is there some way it won't happen...   I would like to hear some opinions, 
because this will cause our old tractors to either become too expensive to 
restore, or to own..  At $3.00 per gallon my old LA case is worth about $250

across the scales.  That is 2 tankfuls of gas... These tractors will get 
very rare, but who is going to buy them or afford to keep them.

This is too long, but you guys have a lot of experience and knowledge, I 
just thought you might have some opinions.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Goff" <alfg at sasktel.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Ralph's rotary mower(now fuel price)


>
> Cecil
> Gas at the pump in town at the Co-op is around the $1.14 per litre now 
> which to translate is about 5.13 a Canadian gallon or probably closer to 
> $4.50 a U.S. gallon.
> Farm diesel last time I checked, maybe a couple of weeks ago was $3.61 a 
> canadian gallon. I'd guess road diesel is well over the $4 mark by now. 
> Expect to see the trucking charges on our grain going up again. No doubt 
> the price we get for our  grain will increase accordingly (just kidding).
>
> Ralph in Sask.
> http://lgoff.sasktelwebsite.net/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Ralph's rotary mower
>
>
>> Ralph:
>> I gotta deviate from this subject a little.  What is the price of gas and

>> diesel in your part of the country now.  We just hit $3.. for road diesel

>> and $2.89 for gas here....
>>
>> Cecil in Okla
>
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