[Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting

Guy Fay fayguyma at execpc.com
Wed Jul 26 11:55:16 PDT 2006


Could there be a break in the wire from the coil to the distributer, so that when stretched a little there is no contact, but when compressed a bit it is making contact?

Roger, Yes I mean the "Secondary cable," as the IH Blue Ribbon Manual calls
> it, that runs from the center of the coil to the center of the distributor.
> 
> 
> I checked the coil (so I thought) by
> 1) Pulling the secondary cable out of the center of the socket of the
> distributor and slipping the rubber nipple back from the terminal.  I then
> put it within 1/8 to 3/16 inch of frame of tractor (I think a couple
> places..oil filter and somewhere else).  Each time I then cranked the
> tractor with the ignition switch on.  I did not see a spark between the
> cable terminal and the frame.
> 
> 2) I tried the way the IH Blue Ribbon Manual recommends by pulling the
> secondary cable out of the center of the socket of the distributor and
> slipping the rubber nipple back from the terminal.  I then put it within 1/8
> to 3/16 inch of the distributor primary terminal. I then cranked the tractor
> with the ignition switch on.  Again I did not see a spark between the cable
> terminal and the primary terminal.   
> 
> Both results lead back the faulty coil, but I just put a new one on.  I am
> heading to the Case-IH dealer this afternoon to see what they say and if
> they can test the coil. If not them, then an electrical shop.  I suppose the
> new coil could be bad, but it also leads to the question as to why should it
> be bad...bad to start with or something wrong with tractor wiring to make it
> go bad....or is there something entirely somewhere else creating this
> result.
> 
> Still puzzled in Nebraska
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Larry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Roger Moffat
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Larry Hardesty wrote:
> 
> > Bigdog.  Should I not get a spark when I take the main wire running  
> > from
> > the coil to the distributor and put the distributor end near a  
> > ground, such
> > as frame of the tractor or the + wire on the side of the  
> > distributor and
> > then crank the tractor?  I am not.   So it would appear no voltage is
> > running from the coil to the distributor.  Don't know why or the  
> > remedy...or
> > am I doing some faulty thinking.
> 
> What do you mean by the "main wire" - the high tension "fat" wire  
> that goes from the centre of the coil to the centre of the  
> distributor, or the wire that goes from the side of the coil to the  
> side of the distributor?
> 
> If it's the high tension "fat" wire you're talking about, then there  
> probably wouldn't be a spark when you put that by the + wire on the  
> side of the distributor as that is only to earth when the points are  
> closed. When the points are open that is not to earth.
> 
> But there should be a spark from the end of the fat wire to any  
> proper ground on the tractor when it is cranking, or when you open  
> and close the points with a screw driver.
> 
> Roger
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