[Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting

Wed Jul 26 06:05:58 PDT 2006

George,  I am not getting a spark from the coil to the distributor.  I
pulled the wire off the distributor that comes from the coil. The put the
end pulled from the distributor near the frame of the tractor. I then
cranked the tractor and no spark.  I put it near where the ground (positive)
wire goes into the distributor. Cranked the tractor and no spark.  It is a
new coil.

I am puzzled.

Thanks

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George
Willer
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:31 PM
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting

Larry,

How the voltage responds to your test is dependent on whether the points are
open or closed.  The "pretty good spark" you get is an indication the points
are closed at that moment.  You can open and close the points with a
screwdriver to see if you can get spark from the coil.  You should be able
to.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Hardesty" <ebony51 at frontiernet.net>
To: "'Farmall/IHC mailing list'" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting

> Dan,  Boy this sure has me baffled.  I just spent another 90 minutes
working
> with it.  I get voltage to the new coil.  In fact, it seems I get a pretty
> good spark when I run a wire across from positive to negative on the coil
> and just touch it.
>
> I have an IH Blue Ribbon Manual on the electrical for the 340, 460, and
560.
> One of things it suggests is disconnecting the wires from the coil and
> connecting jumper cables from the battery and see if I get a spark from on
> to the other (I assume to see if the electricity runs through the coil).
> Well, I did get a spark, but not nearly the spark running a wire from the
> positive to negative of the coil with the wires connected.  Really not
much
> different than from the old coil when I tried it with it.  Should I be
> getting more of spark?  Is it possible (would seem unlikely) to get a
faulty
> new coil and is there a way to test a coil.
>
> I looked through wiring, disconnected connections and cleaned them, etc.
and
> etc., but could not find a short.  Now it could be hidden in wiring.  No
> sign of short in the distributor.  Obviously it has to be something.
>
> Any further ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:farmall-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of DANNY MC
FEE
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:03 AM
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall 340 Not starting
>
> Larry
>    I have seen it here before and you will hear it again from others
>   1. check the grounds
>   2. check the grounds
>   3. check the gounds
>   4. on my H some of the time the power cable is the issue.  make sure
that
> all the connections are clean and tight. you need the voltage but also a
> good solid path for current. carefully see if any connection feels hot
after
> you try to start up.
>   5. look for a short.
>
>   Good luck
>   Dan
>
>
> Larry Hardesty <ebony51 at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
> Folks, Late last week I went out to start my Farmall 340. It fired right
> up and ran maybe three or four minutes and then died suddenly like the
> switch had been turned off. Tried starting it again and nothing..no
sputter
> or single fire or anything like it was a gas problem.
>
> So I started going down the path of looking for an electrical problem.
> Checked and with the switch on I am getting voltage to the coil but
nothing
> coming out. I pulled the main wire coming out of the coil and put it near
> the frame and no sparks when cranking over the tractor. Points looked a
> little pitted. So I replaced the condenser and points. Still nothing. No
> juice coming out of the coil when main wire near frame.
>
> So yesterday I replaced the coil. Still no juice coming out of the coil
> when I put the main wire coil near frame. With switched turned on I do get
> voltage to the coil.
>
> What is next?
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry Hardesty
> Kearney, Nebraska
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
>
> --0-2035416947-1153839780=:30771
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> <div>Larry</div>  <div> I have seen it here before and you will hear
it
> again from others</div>  <div>1. check the grounds</div>  <div>2. check
the
> grounds</div>  <div>3. check the gounds</div>  <div>4. on my H some of the
> time the power cable is the issue.  make sure that all the
connections
> are clean and tight. you need the voltage but also a good solid path for
> current. carefully see if any connection feels hot after you try to start
> up. </div>  <div>5. look for a short. </div>  <div> </div>  <div>Good
> luck</div>  <div>Dan</div>  <div><BR><BR><B><I>Larry Hardesty
> <ebony51 at frontiernet.net></I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE
> class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR>Folks, Late last week I went out to start my
> Farmall 340. It fired right<BR>up and ran maybe three or four minutes and
> then died suddenly like the<BR>switch had been turned off. Tried starting
it
> again and nothing..no sputter<BR>or
>  single fire or anything like it was a gas problem. <BR><BR>So I started
> going down the path of looking for an electrical problem.<BR>Checked and
> with the switch on I am getting voltage to the coil but nothing<BR>coming
> out. I pulled the main wire coming out of the coil and put it near<BR>the
> frame and no sparks when cranking over the tractor. Points looked
> a<BR>little pitted. So I replaced the condenser and points. Still nothing.
> No<BR>juice coming out of the coil when main wire near frame.<BR><BR>So
> yesterday I replaced the coil. Still no juice coming out of the
coil<BR>when
> I put the main wire coil near frame. With switched turned on I do
> get<BR>voltage to the coil.<BR><BR>What is
next?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Larry
> Hardesty<BR>Kearney, Nebraska
> <BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Farmall
> mailing
>
list<BR>http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall<BR></BLOCKQU
> OTE><BR>
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Farmall mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall
>

---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/04

_______________________________________________
Farmall mailing list
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/farmall