[AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B

[Bill Brueck]

I don't remember what K-W stood for, but they made a lot of electrical parts
for automobiles of that vintage.  They were a major provider for those
wooden boxed coils in Model T Fords, for example.  I think they made
electric motors, generators, spark plugs, probably a lot of other early auto
electric stuff.  So to find that KW made an aftermarket lighting system for
tractors would be very consistent with their market. 

B²
 
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA
 
Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.


-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Dean VP
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:09 PM
To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B

Chris:

There may be an alternative for lighting that I hadn't thought of before. In
the repair catalogs I mentioned earlier, there were K. W. Lighting kits
offered for the B's. I don't recall at the moment what the K. W. stands for.
Nor have I ever seen any of the components on a RC crop styled B.  There
probably are others on the list who know more about this lighting set-up. If
I've seen this lighting kit on other JD tractors I didn't recognize it as
such.  So much to learn about these rusty relics. 

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

Forbidden fruits create many jams!

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-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Chris C
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:31 PM
To: Antique John Deere mailing list
Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B

Dean,

    No you are right on,  I had not re-read your article at the time I
replied to your e-mail.  It would appear that I answered my own question
when I asked it.  Can't be done without retrofitting the tractor.  I thought
maybe there would be something like the H light bar that clamps onto the
steering column to add lights without a drastic remodel of the tractor.  Do
you happen to know what the part number would be of the kit that you had to
order for a 39 B to convert it?  Just curious,  I think I am just not going
to operate the 39B in the dark...

    On the wheels,  I am looking find a narrower set of wheels for the 44A.
It already has 12.4-38 wheels that are beyond repairable. I bought a set of
pressed steel wheels that will take the 12.4-38 up to 15-38 tires,  but they
look pretty goofy with the 12.4 tires on them.  Just exploring options.  

               Chris

--- Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:

> Chris:
> 
> Now you have me really confused. The article very clearly delineates 
> what it takes to make a Slant Dash B out of a Hand Start 39 or 40 B. 
> Or at least I thought it did.  There are no other alternatives offered 
> by JD to add lights and/or Starting to a hand start 39 or 40 B.
> 
> The 39 B I parted out had pressed steel wheel centers and they appear 
> to be in really good shape although I don't have the tires off yet. If 
> you are interested in this type of wheel center I will dismount the 
> tires and make sure the rims are in good shape. Yes, they are for 
> sale.
> 
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> 
> www.deerelegacy.com
> 
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Chris C
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:40 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
> 
> Dean,
> 
>     I am using PC-330.  I guess I will need keep my
> eye out for the originals you mentioned.   I did
> read
> your article in the newsletter.   I thought you were
> refering to Sland Dash B's,  which mine is not.  You
> have seen it,  it's the one I bought from Dave.   
> 
>     While we are on the subject of 39 B's,  I don't recall what the 39 
> you parted out had for wheels...
> What were they,  do you still have them,  are they for sale.  etc.  
> etc...
> 
>                       Chris
> 
> --- Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
> 
> > Chris:
> > 
> > The 1939 and 1940 hand Start B's are unique in how lights and 
> > starting were added. If you are using PC330 to try to figure it out 
> > you will become more confused than you really want to have happen. I
> had
> > real trouble figuring it
> > out until I got my hands on the original Repair Catalogs 49-R & 58-R 
> > dated April 1942 and August 1943 respectively. The Slant Dash B's 
> > were the solution for electrical lighting and starting on these two 
> > years tractors.
> > Slant dash B's have many changes to accommodate these options. And 
> > JD did sell an upgrade kit to upgrade a hand start to an electric 
> > start version.
> > 
> > I just published a 4 page article on all of this,
> of
> > which half has been
> > published in the local Two Cylinder Club
> newsletter
> > with the remaining half
> > to be published in the next "spring" newsletter. I assume you are no 
> > longer receiving this newsletter.
> > 
> > I will send you the whole article to your private email address so 
> > you can get the full picture.
> > 
> > >From 1941 on there were the long hood B's with
> the
> > options and the hand
> > start versions as well but they were quite
> different
> > from the 1939 and 1940
> > Slant Dash versions.
> > 
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > 
> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> > 
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> > 
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Chris C
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:39 PM
> > To: ATIS LIST
> > Subject: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     I have been studying my parts manual and am curious as to how 
> > one would mount lights on an
> early
> > styled B,  Hand start.  Lighting and generators
> are
> > shown as an option,  but my parts catalog only
> show
> > light brackets (front) for a cast dash B serial numbers 60000 to 
> > 200999.  My B is serial number 91714.
> >  It has a tin dash.  No holes or places to add the light mounts 
> > shown for that serial number.  On the later B's it shows the bars 
> > mounts that screw into the steering support.  I don't believe that 
> > those work with the early steering support on mine.
> > 
> >      My question?  How do I mount lights on this tractor?  Or,  if I 
> > were a farmer in 1939 wanting
> to
> > add lights,  generator and batter to this tractor,
> 
> > would I have to 'convert' to the long hood,  cast dash tractor to 
> > accomplish this?
> > 
> >                       Chris
> > 
> > 
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