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[Larry D. Goss]

LOL!  Then you know where Waynedale is, Jerry.  That was my stomping
ground.

Larry

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Larry, Ken, my mom and dad both worked there at Taylor St during WWII,
we
lived out on So Webster St a block north of Paulding Rd...Dad drove
truck
and Mom was in the winding dept...man how small is this world...
Jerry NW Ohio

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> You made my day, Ken.  My Dad designed some of that stuff.  The
> supercharger plant was a separate production facility of GE out on
> Taylor Street in Fort Wayne.  Dad spent a lot of time between there
and
> the Broadway plant during the war.  The whole plant has been shut down
> and mothballed for years.  He really lamented the changeover to
> semi-conductors in the early 50's because the response curves just
> weren't as predictable and smooth as the vacuum tubes he had been
> working with for years.  It seems to me I remember that most of that
> stuff operated on 400 cycle AC.  We had one of the 400 cycle
> motor-generators setting on the floor of the shop for years.  I don't
> know why Dad ever brought it home because we had nothing on the farm
> that we could use it for.
>
> Larry
>
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of ken knierim
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 11:57 AM
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>
>   Funny how a lot of this "old technology" has been forgotten. I've
been
> working on a project that pretty much requires tubes. The original
> control system, developed in the late 30's or early 40's is based on a
> tube design. Another outfit tried replacing the older technology with
> new, solid state designed stuff, and it wouldn't work right.
>   When we got the project, the stipulation was to use the original
> design and build replacement parts to keep the original system
> operational. They have all the test equipment to keep the old systems
> running... tube testers and a mockup of the system so everything can
be
> tested individually. It's a rather complex mechanical and electrical
> system and I can see why the folks trying to replace just parts of the
> system would have issues. I also got to learn and in some cases
re-learn
> some stuff about tubes in the process.
>     After learning how this system works, I have to say that my hat's
> off to the great engineers that made this type of thing work (at least
> 20 years before I was born!). We take SO much for granted these days
> when designing stuff... I see what they went through to control a
motor
> closed-loop on an aircraft. Transformers and motor-generators and
phased
> control of a motor. This would be a good teacher of control systems
> theory colliding with the limits of available technology.
>     It's a turbosupercharger controller. I have taken an old
> point-to-point wiring design and put it on a circuit board for the
> amplifier. It goes on radial engines used on some 4-engine aircraft
used
> during WWII. It's a walk through history and technology.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 19:42, Dean VP wrote:
> > Ralph:
> >
> > Yep, I remember the test patterns and the test tone. No 24 hour TV
> like we
> > are so used to today. I also remember the waiting period for the
tube
> based
> > electronics to warm up. Solid state electronics changed all that.
> Remember
> > the service men that would come out with their container of
> replacement
> > tubes, etc? And their tube tester!
> >
> > I started designing solid state based circuits in 1962 in industry
> after
> > being primarily trained in Vacuum Tube theory. The improved
> performance and
> > significantly improved reliability was so pronounced that I consider
> it one
> > of the major milestones in technology development. If the consumers
> knew,
> > when the first TV sets came out, how close they were to potentially
> failing,
> > no one would have bought one. It is a bit amazing how well they
worked
> in
> > their time.  But then servicing equipment was accepted. Today, if a
> piece of
> > electronics fails it gets thrown away.
> >
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> >
> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> >
> > www.deerelegacy.com
>
>
>
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