[AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads

Fri Jan 27 17:52:19 PST 2006

Check out this piece of equipment.  It's not the exact one I was looking for 
but it's similar.  They are made without the roller and in a longer frame 
with more drag angles but this one will give you an idea.

If you've never seen one work you'll be impressed.

http://www.roadrunnerblade.com/motorgraders.html

Charlie
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From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 6:21 PM
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> The one I have available at the church is home made, John.  It's less
> than five feet wide so I can handle it with the L&G tractors that I have
> and that the church owns (Power Kings).  But it started life as a 6-inch
> diameter chunk of round bar stock that somebody welded 1/2" rebar to.
> The spikes are about 4 inches long.  The owner of it uses it to aerate
> his lawn.  I use it to level the driveway.  The spikes break up the
> compaction rock so that it "flows" into the depressions as it rolls.
> There's even a length of railroad rail to throw on top of the frame just
> in case it "needs more weight."  It's not set up for 3-point operation,
> but it's too heavy for a L&G tractor anyway -- the front wheels would
> lift long before the roller would.
>
> It's not a fast process because it doesn't move lots of material in any
> single pass, but if you just keep going back and forth over the whole
> length of the drive, before long all the potholes are gone.
>
> Larry
>
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of JParks
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:43 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads
>
> Larry..........pulling a drum behind graders is making a
> comeback............we have had several contractors who do road work,
> and
> even the US Forest Service and BLM guys, scrounging up old Galion drums
> from
> the obsolete asphalt compactors.  The drums are usually about 5-6 ft
> across
> and 5 ft diameter, and when filled with water, can become quite heavy
> and do
> a great job trailing graders doing finish work.
>
> The small contractors and operators, who often work either alone or with
> little paid help, can look like an Okie caravan of the dust bowl days
> driving a grader, towing a drum, and towing their pickup truck all at
> once.
>
> You can usually pick these old rollers up for just a few hundred bucks,
> keep
> one drum, sell one and break even.
>
> John Parks
> Boise, Id
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 7:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads
>
>
>> Right, Dean, a Cub with a center blade really is a nice rig to run for
>> leveling.  It leaves some things to be desired when it comes to fast
>> adjustment for cant.  The model I had was OEM and you had to stop, get
>> off, and turn a big horizontal bolt behind the blade to change the
>> right/left elevation for cutting ditches.  When it comes to leveling
>> without moving lots of dirt, nothing beats one of the new landscape
>> rollers on a three-point hitch.  Those things will turn a
> pothole-filled
>> parking lot or driveway into a skating rink by just driving around and
>> around.  I'd love to have one of those for maintaining the long gravel
>> drive we have at the church, but the next door neighbor at the church
>> has one parked on the back lot line of his property that he lets us
>> borrow whenever we need it.  That's a no-brainer.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dean VP
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:19 AM
>> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
>> Subject: RE: [AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads
>>
>> Larry/Dudley:
>>
>> Due to the lack of a loader tractor here several years ago I purchased
> a
>> new
>> 3 point reversible scoop made by Lienback out of North Carolina. I got
>> it at
>> Whiskey Jim's place West of Marysville but it had a Meridian Equipment
>> (Lynden, WA) Tag on it. I don't remember now if it is a 5 or 10 cubic
>> foot
>> version. But I have used it a lot hooked onto my JD 750 compact
> tractor.
>> I've probably moved over 100 yards of material over the years. Huge
>> Rocks
>> first, then bark, then top soil, then dirt of all sorts, then round
> wash
>> rock for my drainage ditches, then almost anything that needed to be
>> moved.
>> It still is in pretty good shape and I've abused it some but it sure
>> isn't
>> worn out.  I use it backwards almost all the time. I have tried to use
>> it in
>> the forward position and it just doesn't work that good that way in
> our
>> rocky soil. I haven't figured out the right formula I guess.
>>
>> When I was moving the big rocks I could get rocks in it that were more
>> than
>> the 750 could lift or where I could keep the front end down. I have a
>> pretty
>> heavy blade on the front of the 750 too. What I found out is I could
> try
>> to
>> lift the loaded bucket enough to take most of the weight up and then
> it
>> would skid to where I wanted to unload the rock. Some of these rocks
>> weighed
>> several hundred pounds. The scoop handled it fine but the 750 just
>> couldn't
>> handle the load all that well. The three point hydraulics on the 750
>> aren't
>> quite as strong as I would like.  I have used the scoop on my 60 and
> 620
>> three points and those hydraulics are strong enough to hurt the scoop.
>> But
>> it is still in good shape.
>>
>> I now have a loader tractor but the scoop is so handy it gets used
> first
>> before the loader. In addition to the Lienback scoop I also purchased
> a
>> new
>> HD boom, also made by Lienback. I got this also before I had a loader.
>> That
>> is when I fully realized the hydraulics on the 750 were pretty weak.
> A
>> boom
>> really takes hydraulic power. Now, the boom gets put on to the 620
> with
>> front frame weights and there isn't much around here I can't lift.
>> Plows,
>> implements, rear tractor tires on rims, etc.
>>
>> I kind of laught at myself a bit for buying the HD version of the
> boom.
>> The
>> 750 couldn't even get close lifting more than the light duty boom
> could
>> handle but the 620 is an animal and therefore it is probably good that
> I
>> have the heavy duty version. I've had the front end off the ground
> with
>> it
>> and there is 350 lbs of weight on the front of it.
>>
>> We also built a new house on our farm in 1948 in NW Iowa and I
> remember
>> using a slip scoop digging the basement too. As I recall it was pulled
>> behind a horse with Dad running it. Like was said, it took three hands
>> or
>> more. I also recall using a plow to loosen up the soil.  But a loader
> &
>> tractor was used as well. I suspect the slip scoop was used with the
>> horse
>> because it was easier to scoot around in a tight place. As I recall
> the
>> slip
>> scoop generated quite a few more swear words than did the loader. :-)
>>
>> The odd implement though that I remember the most was an old two axle
>> road
>> grader on four steel wheels that originally was designed to be pulled
> by
>> two
>> to four horses. It had been converted to be tractor drawn and we would
>> police all our driveways and roads in the area with it. It had two big
>> vertical adjustment wheels on it and a platform where Dad stood to
>> operate
>> it. He really new how to operate that sucker as he had worked for the
>> Iowa
>> State Highway Commission during the depression. He would spin those
> big
>> wheels, one way or the other as the terrain changed or needed to be
>> changed.
>> I took the place of the horses, driving the tractor. The horses though
>> probably understood the voice commands better than I did.  :-) It
> really
>> wasn't all that heavy but the blade had just the right cant to it that
>> it
>> would really do the job. I don't think a back blade on any three point
>> today
>> would do nearly as good a job. The blade centered between the two
> widely
>> separated axles really helped a lot for leveling things out. Maybe a
>> Farmall
>> Cub with belly blade would get close but it doesn't have near the
> wheel
>> base
>> that is required.
>>
>> You guys are really bringing up old memories.  My mother must have
> told
>> me
>> about this. I'm not old enough to remember this stuff!  :-) The 40's
>> seem
>> like they are prehistoric times lately. My God, that is before TV!
> :-)
>> Is
>> that BC or AD?
>>
>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dudley
> Rupert
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:31 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: RE: [AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I have one of the 3-pt scoops that I believe you are talking about
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
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