[AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads

[David Bruce]

Dean,
I have the scoop pan and the boom pole from Leinbach.  There sales location is 
just on the other side from me to Spencer's place and their manufacturing 
location is in the town of East Bend.  I also bought the scoop pan before I had 
a loader tractor and even now I find I use the pan often.  Like you I've never 
been very successful using the pan in the "forward" position.
I've been very happy with my Leinbach purchases (and they have a big yard at the 
sales location with all sorts of goodies but new and used).  Makes for a good 
place to spend a few hours just walking around and looking.
I also have a scrape blade that was originally for an Allis CA.  I never saw the 
CA but I do have the D-14 that replaced it.  The scrape blade is a marvel of 
engineering - much better than anything I've seen new.

David
NW NC

Dean VP wrote:

> Larry/Dudley:
> 
> Due to the lack of a loader tractor here several years ago I purchased a new
> 3 point reversible scoop made by Lienback out of North Carolina. I got it at
> Whiskey Jim's place West of Marysville but it had a Meridian Equipment
> (Lynden, WA) Tag on it. I don't remember now if it is a 5 or 10 cubic foot
> version. But I have used it a lot hooked onto my JD 750 compact tractor.
> I've probably moved over 100 yards of material over the years. Huge Rocks
> first, then bark, then top soil, then dirt of all sorts, then round wash
> rock for my drainage ditches, then almost anything that needed to be moved.
> It still is in pretty good shape and I've abused it some but it sure isn't
> worn out.  I use it backwards almost all the time. I have tried to use it in
> the forward position and it just doesn't work that good that way in our
> rocky soil. I haven't figured out the right formula I guess. 
> 
> When I was moving the big rocks I could get rocks in it that were more than
> the 750 could lift or where I could keep the front end down. I have a pretty
> heavy blade on the front of the 750 too. What I found out is I could try to
> lift the loaded bucket enough to take most of the weight up and then it
> would skid to where I wanted to unload the rock. Some of these rocks weighed
> several hundred pounds. The scoop handled it fine but the 750 just couldn't
> handle the load all that well. The three point hydraulics on the 750 aren't
> quite as strong as I would like.  I have used the scoop on my 60 and 620
> three points and those hydraulics are strong enough to hurt the scoop. But
> it is still in good shape. 
> 
> I now have a loader tractor but the scoop is so handy it gets used first
> before the loader. In addition to the Lienback scoop I also purchased a new
> HD boom, also made by Lienback. I got this also before I had a loader.  That
> is when I fully realized the hydraulics on the 750 were pretty weak.  A boom
> really takes hydraulic power. Now, the boom gets put on to the 620 with
> front frame weights and there isn't much around here I can't lift. Plows,
> implements, rear tractor tires on rims, etc. 
> 
> I kind of laught at myself a bit for buying the HD version of the boom. The
> 750 couldn't even get close lifting more than the light duty boom could
> handle but the 620 is an animal and therefore it is probably good that I
> have the heavy duty version. I've had the front end off the ground with it
> and there is 350 lbs of weight on the front of it.
> 
> We also built a new house on our farm in 1948 in NW Iowa and I remember
> using a slip scoop digging the basement too. As I recall it was pulled
> behind a horse with Dad running it. Like was said, it took three hands or
> more. I also recall using a plow to loosen up the soil.  But a loader &
> tractor was used as well. I suspect the slip scoop was used with the horse
> because it was easier to scoot around in a tight place. As I recall the slip
> scoop generated quite a few more swear words than did the loader. :-)  
> 
> The odd implement though that I remember the most was an old two axle road
> grader on four steel wheels that originally was designed to be pulled by two
> to four horses. It had been converted to be tractor drawn and we would
> police all our driveways and roads in the area with it. It had two big
> vertical adjustment wheels on it and a platform where Dad stood to operate
> it. He really new how to operate that sucker as he had worked for the Iowa
> State Highway Commission during the depression. He would spin those big
> wheels, one way or the other as the terrain changed or needed to be changed.
> I took the place of the horses, driving the tractor. The horses though
> probably understood the voice commands better than I did.  :-) It really
> wasn't all that heavy but the blade had just the right cant to it that it
> would really do the job. I don't think a back blade on any three point today
> would do nearly as good a job. The blade centered between the two widely
> separated axles really helped a lot for leveling things out. Maybe a Farmall
> Cub with belly blade would get close but it doesn't have near the wheel base
> that is required. 
> 
> You guys are really bringing up old memories.  My mother must have told me
> about this. I'm not old enough to remember this stuff!  :-) The 40's seem
> like they are prehistoric times lately. My God, that is before TV!  :-) Is
> that BC or AD? 
> 
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dudley Rupert
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:31 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: RE: [AT] OT: Flashback - Early Farmers Building County Roads
> 
> Larry,
> 
> I have one of the 3-pt scoops that I believe you are talking about
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 
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