[AT] JD Model 4C plow

Mon Jan 16 11:43:40 PST 2006

Dean,

Boy, if you had all the tractors now that were on your' farm while you were
a kid you'd have quite a herd ... it's easy to see why green is in your'
veins.

Re: your' thoughts on child labor I say ditto.  Two things that I recall my
dad talking about quite often around the dinner table were 1) those people
who seemed to think it was their calling in life to stick their nose in
other peoples business and 2) an often related item which was the dangers of
an ever expanding governmental bureaucracy.  It amuses me sitting here now
thinking back to what might have happened if someone from a governmental
agency, say the labor department or child protective services or whatever,
would have stepped foot on our little farm back in the forties and said to
my dad "I am here to talk (i.e., lecture) you about how you are to raise
your' sons" ... in my minds eye now that scene would have been worth the
price of admission.  Of course, this is not to make light of real child
abuse but merely to reflect on how far back society has seemly moved that
line which differentiates between good hard honest work and abuse.

Dudley
Snohomish, Washington

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Dudley:

I remember plowing with a styled JD B's and a 44 Hand start JD A and 47 JD
A.  I have asked my much older brother what the years were of the B's. His
recollection is different than mine. He says we had a 1936 B and later 1941
and 1948 B's. A 2 x 16" plow is a heavy load for a B, even in our good rich
NW Iowa sandy loam top soil. Primarily because we plowed quite deep. But I
don't recall turning over anything but black topsoil. Except for one rock
and that incident was a major trauma and a story of its own. In the spring
we would plow in three 8 hour shifts. My Dad, my brother and I. The tractors
were only stopped to put gas in them.

I distinctly remember being quite full of myself the first time Dad let me
plow by myself. I could hardly get the clutch lever back and forth and the
brake pedals seemed to be a long ways away. I remember Dad attaching an
extra length to the hand clutch lever on one of the A's because I just
couldn't handle that one. OSHA would have had cardiac arrest. Much less
child labor law attorneys if they even existed at that time.

I remember plowing with the B's and A's but I was so young, model year
tractors weren't very important to me at the time I guess. When I was 14
(1954) or so Dad got a JD 70 and a 4 bottom tag plow and I spent 100's of
hours on that combination so I remember that much better. That 70 was an
animal, especially after we hopped it up. The B's eventually got replaced by
a JD 50 but the A's and the 70 remained. A few years after I left the farm
the 70 got replaced by a brand new JD Gas 3010 and 4 bottom three point
plow.

During my tenure all of our plows were tag along, trip lift except the 4
bottom which was a hydraulic lift. I remember the hydraulic lift as being
really modern stuff. We were in the big time now!  :-)

PS: I get a kick out of those who complain about the countries we import
stuff from today that use child labor. But I don't ever hear a complaint
about all the child labor used here on American farms to this day. Needs to
be looked at on a case by case basis.

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

Forbidden fruits create many jams!

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Dean,

Tell us what you pulled that plow with ... I am sure it was a Deere but what
model/year?  The eBay plow appears to have a trip lever and I am just
guessing that the one you pulled and are rebuilding probably did to.

Dudley

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Subject: [AT] JD Model 4C plow

There is a JD Model 4C plow for sale on eBay in Ohio that I would buy if it
wasn't so stinking far away. I need some parts off of it to finish restoring
my Dad's JD 2 x 16" model 4C. The very plow I plowed with as a kid. This
particular plow on eBay might be a 2 x 12" which makes it a bit different.
However, all I need off of it are the two steel wheels and the two levers.

Is anyone in the Ohio area reasonably close by interested in sharing some of
the parts off of this plow?  Or any creative ideas on how to capture this
thing until we can work something out? I would pay for services rendered as
needed.

See eBay auction # 7212190408

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

Forbidden fruits create many jams!

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