[AT] Scales for antique tractors???

Thu Jan 12 10:29:09 PST 2006

Dean, a local club over in IN bought a set (4 wheels) portable scales they
wired them together with a drive on frame and use it as a single scale, if I
can get any more info I will let you know...good luck
Jerry NW Ohio

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> Jerry:
>
> I'm familiar with both Toledo and Hobart scale companies. I think I'll
give
> them a call at their local sales offices and see what might be available
out
> here. Thanks for the tip. I suspect however we will need a full platform
> scale rather than the individual wheel or axle type scales.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Rhodes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:24 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AT] Scales for antique tractors???
>
> Dean, you may want to check with your local DOT, they use portable scales
to
> weight check trucks on the road, they carry them in the trunk of their
> cars..do a web check of "Toledo Scales" they are the big one around here,
> Jerry NW Ohio Trader
>
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> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Scales for antique tractors???
>
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > Around here now they have really cracked down on over weight log trucks.
> > The result is the use of portable scales on the job site.  I don't know
> that
> > much about them but I suspect that a new industry has sprung up for
> building
> > portable scale units that don't require a lot of complicated setup at
the
> > site.  You might want to check with some local timber companies.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:13 AM
> > Subject: [AT] Scales for antique tractors???
> >
> >
> > > Our local antique tractor club is considering building a portable
> platform
> > > scale to weigh antique tractors and garden tractors for use during
> pulling
> > > competition.
> > >
> > > Having had some professional experience with load cells and associated
> > > electronics and observing some rather erratic scales at various
antique
> > > tractor shows in the area I would like to offer other alternative
> options
> > > for the club to consider before venturing into a possibly ill advised
> > > building adventure. There are scales available to rent if the risk of
> the
> > > urge to "do-it ourselves" is properly recognized and tempered.  But
I'm
> > > not
> > > sure that can be controlled.
> > >
> > > If there were appropriately skilled scale personnel in the club I
would
> be
> > > less concerned. But, what I see is a possibility of "we can build
> anything
> > > and make it work" syndrome developing. Not recognizing some of the
> > > inherent
> > > risks and financial exposure.  Therefore, I am soliciting advice from
> any
> > > others on the list who may have technical advice and/or experience in
> such
> > > an endeavor.
> > >
> > > My gut tells me there are used, commercial, ready made solutions that
> have
> > > had good design methods used and are probably less expensive than the
> cost
> > > of doing it ourselves.  MY guess is that there may be surplus platform
> > > scales available that no longer fit the needs of today's commercial
> > > requirements but would be totally adequate for the clubs needs.
> > >
> > > I know we do not need certifiable weights and measures accuracy
> traceable
> > > to
> > > the National Bureau of Standards. :-) However, some reasonable level
of
> > > accuracy is required but consistency is probably even more important.
> > >
> > > My guess is the scale probably will need to weigh up to 12,000 -
15,000
> > > lbs
> > > but also weigh 500 lbs reasonably accurate as well. That may be more
> > > difficult than expected. The inconsistencies I have seen on some of
the
> > > scales used at local tractor shows has been largely due to temperature
> > > variations and loading position sensitivities. These all can be
> > > compensated
> > > for with a good design and appropriate electronics. So far I don't see
> > > that
> > > kind of collective design skill within the club personnel and
therefore
> I
> > > see the us heading for the wonderful experience of kaleidoscope hell
> > > (tweak
> > > it until it works) and severe cost overruns. I do see a significant
> level
> > > of
> > > naivety. :-) I currently see the potential of "We can do it for $1500
> > > turning into a $5,000 doesn't work so good end result".
> > >
> > > So... I'm looking for ideas on where one would go to find a low cost
> > > commercial solution. I would think there would be used commercial
scales
> > > available on the market that might fit both our technical requirements
> and
> > > simultaneously fit our financial budget. I may be wrong.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. Help???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > >
> > > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> > >
> > > www.deerelegacy.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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