[AJD] Hansen extractor set

[Frank]

an ol machinist showed me how to do it and it works better that drills, easy 
outs, or anything else...........

braze a file handle to the bolt or stud and leave it till cool .....
turn pressure on the file and it will back it out like a nylon strap will 
pull a car out of snow......

don't waste your money on that junk...cost you more time and money than they 
are worth!!

Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'" 
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Hansen extractor set


> Tommy:
>
> I'm sorry to hear you are having such problems with your radiator bolts. I
> was the culprit who brought up the Hansen set here and have received my 
> set
> but have not had a chance to use them yet.
>
> If you recall I mentioned that I had had very poor luck removing broken
> bolts with EZ-Outs (Never-Outs) and had read those on the list who had
> better luck with left hand drills. They even had some come out just 
> drilling
> using the left-hand drill. I have not yet had that luck and mentioned that
> "Hell would probably freeze over first!" I purchase the 35 piece set to 
> see
> if it might improve the odds a bit. My expectations are fairly low but I
> never expected 100& success either.
>
> In my limited experience using right hand drill bits and "Never-Outs" I 
> have
> only had one success which was so surprising to me I took the day off to
> celebrate. :-) I have learned though that it is sometimes obvious that a
> bolt is so rusted and decayed and so chemically and physically bonded that
> the chances of getting it out are going to slim to none using mechanical
> means. In those cases I have drilled them out with the largest possible 
> bit
> w/o ruining the threads and melting the rest out with a torch. I have also
> learned that one must not be too conservative in how much heat is applied.
> The remaining part must get hot enough to change color to facilitate
> possible removal. If it gets hot enough, the bond will be disturbed.
> Repeated application of heat also improves the odds. If one is very 
> careful
> applying heat the bolt will melt before damaging the cast iron threads 
> since
> its melting point is slightly higher. It is a fine line to walk however.
>
> I've come to the conclusion I'll never be 100% successful but any success 
> is
> better than none. If it was easy the threaded inserts (Heli-Coil) probably
> wouldn't have been invented. I also have had a few successes just drilling
> out the threaded hole to a few sizes larger, inserting a bolt and then
> drilling and tapping that bolt down back to the original size. Lots of 
> ways
> to skin the cat.
>
> Hope you have better luck in the future.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Tommy Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:27 PM
> To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: [AJD] Hansen extractor set
>
> Well, the broken bolts on the top and bottom of the radiator of my AR
> have been eating my lunch. Well, they're not so much broken as just
> rusted away to the point that there was a nut left to take off. I
> broke an easy out in one and broke a left hand drill bit in another.
> But I did get one out! So I decided to go ahead and order the 35
> piece set from Northern that was talked about here just after
> Christmas. They came in this afternoon so I went to the shop after
> supper. For a 5/16" bolt it says to drill a 3/16" hole the use the
> 3/16" extractor. I heated the piece with the torch thinking it might
> help break the "rust bond". Drilled the 3/16" hole then put the 3/16"
> extractor in. It promptly lifted the steel out leaving a slightly
> larger than 3/16" hole. So I took the next size larger bit and then
> the next size larger extractor. Guess what? It rung off! Now I have
> an easy out in one hole, a drill bit in one hole and an extractor in
> yet another hole. Hope you guys have better luck with this set. So
> far I'm not too impressed.
>
> Tommy Wilson
> Ruston, LA
> 1950 IH H
> 1950 JD AR
> 1951 JD B
> 1952 IH SC
>
>
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