SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc. now ramble (born free taxed till death)

Mattias Kessén mattias at linderson-mark-bygg.se
Tue Jan 10 23:16:01 PST 2006


Thank's for the flattering. We have been talking about going over there but
we'll have to wait a few years for the twins to grow older and my busines
getting more mine and lesser the bank's.

/Mattias

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]För Gene Dotson
Skickat: den 10 januari 2006 18:01
Till: Antique tractor email discussion group
Ämne: Re: [AT] 3Ph, etc. now ramble (born free taxed till death)


    Mattias;
    I want you to know that I really appreciate your sense of
humor. You would be very comfortable in middle America, and I
hope you can someday come to visit with us.

    As a tractor reference, I have been cleaning trees from
property lines with my Case 320 bulldozer. I can't call them
fence lines, since the fences have long been gone.

                Gene




----- Original Message -----
From: "Mattias Kessén" <mattias at linderson-mark-bygg.se>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc. now ramble (born free taxed till
death)


: Well that is really a hard question to answer. We pay for the
net on one
: bill and the electricity on one other. On the net bill we have
one yearly
: fee that varies depending on the size of the headfuse/s, up to
3 times
: 16A(standard) it's very small differences when you goes beyond
that it
: becomes expensive. We pay the netowner (E.off)121 USD a year
for 3X16A and
: then we pay them 2.85 cents/kWh. Then we pay our
elctricitydistributor 23
: USD/year, 3.74 cents/kWh for electricity, 3.29 cent/kWh
energytax and then
: we pay 0.36 cents/kWh as electricalcertifikatefee (fine word
for another
: tax).
: On all those fees we pay 25% VAT (incl. the taxes, at this
point I think
: I'll have to clarify that I'm not kidding!). This means that
we pay 180 USD
: a year (I believe that you could not even cut that in half if
you go to
: single phase 6A) and 12.80 cents/kWh (6.21 are taxes and VAT)
and we
: probably pay below average for swedish private customers.
: Earlier we had cheap electricity here but now with a
government in hands of
: the enviromentalparty we don't. This means that the only
industries (paper
: and metal) that have been reluctant to leave Sweden for low
sallery
: countries also are dissapearing now. Before we know we will be
in your third
: world gang ;-)
: Confused? Blame the Swedish government. I have no intention to
start a
: political conversation but I believe it would have been
impossible to answer
: your question without mentioning some politics. As tractor
referense I can
: tell you that since I don't use my David Brown other than on
the farm I
: don't have to pay tax for it :-) but I have to pay a yearly 5
USD
: registerkeepingfee (again not kidding).
: If this don't get to the list in a few hours (I had messages
undelivered
: for weeks lately) it's definetively the governments fault!
:
: Mattias
: Born free! Taxed till death.   (and in fact probably even
after death)
:
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: [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]För Cecil Bearden
: Skickat: den 10 januari 2006 14:59
: Till: Antique tractor email discussion group
: Ämne: Re: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
:
: Mattias:
: What does power cost in your country.  Here, I am a small user
of 3 phase
: and I think it runs about $.11 per KWH   single phase is about
$.10 per KWH.
: we are on an electric Cooperative.
:
: Cecil in OKla
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
: To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
: Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:41 AM
: Subject: RE: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
:
:
: Mattias:
:
: Relax, a little friendly ribbing was intended.  No flame was
intended but we
: do tend to protect our country from inappropriate ridicule.
:
: Dean A. Van Peursem
: Snohomish, WA 98290
:
: Forbidden fruits create many jams!
:
: www.deerelegacy.com
:
: http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
: [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Mattias Kessén
: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 5:20 AM
: To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
: Subject: SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
: Maybe I sometimes speaks some french :-o But I have no french
relatives and
: I don't feel any other relationship with those frogs :-o And
it wasn't me
: who said that the worlds greatest United States of America is
a third world
: country. But go a head and flame me. Maybe you can reunite
with the french
: and do it, sil vous plait ;-)
:
: /Mattias (and we sometimes have only one or two phases or none
at home Quite
: often this time of the year And that is thanks to the ¤&¤#
Fritz's at E.on
: commonly known as E.off)
:
: -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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: [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]För Dean VP
: Skickat: den 9 januari 2006 12:54
: Till: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
: Ämne: RE: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
:
: Mattias:
:
: You have been spending too much time with your French
relatives. :-)
:
: Dean A. Van Peursem
: Snohomish, WA 98290
:
: Forbidden fruits create many jams!
:
: www.deerelegacy.com
:
: http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
: [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Mattias Kessén
: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:38 PM
: To: Antique tractor email discussion group (E-mail)
: Subject: VB: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
:
:
: -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
: Från: Mattias Kessén [mailto:mattias at linderson-mark-bygg.se]
: Skickat: den 2 januari 2006 10:47
: Till: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
: Ämne: SV: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
:
:
: First I was surprised that so few of you have 3phase. But on
the other hand
: it feels like some should not have electricity at all or at
least not try to
: do something with it. I thought we had a elctrical system from
the 19 th
: century but you guy's made me feel really modern. Here are
only small or old
: apatments that hav only 1ph.
:
: /Mattias
:
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