[AJD] Lights KW

Duane Larson jdlarson at comcast.net
Fri Jan 6 08:53:23 PST 2006 

Sometimes the impossible takes a little longer.  K-W likely stands for J. A. 
Williams (President) and Wm. Kaple (Vice President) of the K-W Ignition 
Company. An important piece of trivia.
No charge.
Duane

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Lights KW


>
> KW was indeed a major player in the lighting market. I have, and I believe 
> Duane does also, a
> KW tractor lighting book altho it tends to be for somewhat earlier 
> tractors.
> We had a very old road grader here that had KW lights on. It was 
> unfortunately consigned or it
> would not have left our lot with its lighting system intact!
>
> Greg
>
>
> Greg Stephen
> The Old Tractor Company
> Stephen Equipment Company
> PO Box 709
> Franktown, CO 80116
> 303-663-5246
> 303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!
>
> On Thu Jan  5 18:08 , 'Dean VP' <deanvp at att.net> sent:
>
>>Chris:
>>
>>There may be an alternative for lighting that I hadn't thought of before. 
>>In
>>the repair catalogs I mentioned earlier, there were K. W. Lighting kits
>>offered for the B's. I don't recall at the moment what the K. W. stands 
>>for.
>>Nor have I ever seen any of the components on a RC crop styled B.  There
>>probably are others on the list who know more about this lighting set-up. 
>>If
>>I've seen this lighting kit on other JD tractors I didn't recognize it as
>>such.  So much to learn about these rusty relics.
>>
>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>Chris C
>>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:31 PM
>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
>>
>>Dean,
>>
>>    No you are right on,  I had not re-read your
>>article at the time I replied to your e-mail.  It
>>would appear that I answered my own question when I
>>asked it.  Can't be done without retrofitting the
>>tractor.  I thought maybe there would be something
>>like the H light bar that clamps onto the steering
>>column to add lights without a drastic remodel of the
>>tractor.  Do you happen to know what the part number
>>would be of the kit that you had to order for a 39 B
>>to convert it?  Just curious,  I think I am just not
>>going to operate the 39B in the dark...
>>
>>    On the wheels,  I am looking find a narrower set
>>of wheels for the 44A.  It already has 12.4-38 wheels
>>that are beyond repairable. I bought a set of pressed
>>steel wheels that will take the 12.4-38 up to 15-38
>>tires,  but they look pretty goofy with the 12.4 tires
>>on them.  Just exploring options.
>>
>>               Chris
>>
>>--- Dean VP deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris:
>>>
>>> Now you have me really confused. The article very
>>> clearly delineates what it
>>> takes to make a Slant Dash B out of a Hand Start 39
>>> or 40 B. Or at least I
>>> thought it did.  There are no other alternatives
>>> offered by JD to add lights
>>> and/or Starting to a hand start 39 or 40 B.
>>>
>>> The 39 B I parted out had pressed steel wheel
>>> centers and they appear to be
>>> in really good shape although I don't have the tires
>>> off yet. If you are
>>> interested in this type of wheel center I will
>>> dismount the tires and make
>>> sure the rims are in good shape. Yes, they are for
>>> sale.
>>>
>>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>
>>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>>
>>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>
>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> Chris C
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:40 AM
>>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>> Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
>>>
>>> Dean,
>>>
>>>     I am using PC-330.  I guess I will need keep my
>>> eye out for the originals you mentioned.   I did
>>> read
>>> your article in the newsletter.   I thought you were
>>> refering to Sland Dash B's,  which mine is not.  You
>>> have seen it,  it's the one I bought from Dave.
>>>
>>>     While we are on the subject of 39 B's,  I don't
>>> recall what the 39 you parted out had for wheels...
>>> What were they,  do you still have them,  are they
>>> for
>>> sale.  etc.  etc...
>>>
>>>                       Chris
>>>
>>> --- Dean VP deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Chris:
>>> >
>>> > The 1939 and 1940 hand Start B's are unique in how
>>> > lights and starting were
>>> > added. If you are using PC330 to try to figure it
>>> > out you will become more
>>> > confused than you really want to have happen. I
>>> had
>>> > real trouble figuring it
>>> > out until I got my hands on the original Repair
>>> > Catalogs 49-R & 58-R dated
>>> > April 1942 and August 1943 respectively. The Slant
>>> > Dash B's were the
>>> > solution for electrical lighting and starting on
>>> > these two years tractors.
>>> > Slant dash B's have many changes to accommodate
>>> > these options. And JD did
>>> > sell an upgrade kit to upgrade a hand start to an
>>> > electric start version.
>>> >
>>> > I just published a 4 page article on all of this,
>>> of
>>> > which half has been
>>> > published in the local Two Cylinder Club
>>> newsletter
>>> > with the remaining half
>>> > to be published in the next "spring" newsletter. I
>>> > assume you are no longer
>>> > receiving this newsletter.
>>> >
>>> > I will send you the whole article to your private
>>> > email address so you can
>>> > get the full picture.
>>> >
>>> > >From 1941 on there were the long hood B's with
>>> the
>>> > options and the hand
>>> > start versions as well but they were quite
>>> different
>>> > from the 1939 and 1940
>>> > Slant Dash versions.
>>> >
>>> > Dean A. Van Peursem
>>> > Snohomish, WA 98290
>>> >
>>> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>> >
>>> > www.deerelegacy.com
>>> >
>>> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From:
>>> >
>>> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> >
>>>
>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>> > On Behalf Of
>>> > Chris C
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:39 PM
>>> > To: ATIS LIST
>>> > Subject: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     I have been studying my parts manual and am
>>> > curious as to how one would mount lights on an
>>> early
>>> > styled B,  Hand start.  Lighting and generators
>>> are
>>> > shown as an option,  but my parts catalog only
>>> show
>>> > light brackets (front) for a cast dash B serial
>>> > numbers 60000 to 200999.  My B is serial number
>>> > 91714.
>>> >  It has a tin dash.  No holes or places to add the
>>> > light mounts shown for that serial number.  On the
>>> > later B's it shows the bars mounts that screw into
>>> > the
>>> > steering support.  I don't believe that those work
>>> > with the early steering support on mine.
>>> >
>>> >      My question?  How do I mount lights on this
>>> > tractor?  Or,  if I were a farmer in 1939 wanting
>>> to
>>> > add lights,  generator and batter to this tractor,
>>>
>>> > would I have to 'convert' to the long hood,  cast
>>> > dash
>>> > tractor to accomplish this?
>>> >
>>> >                       Chris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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