[AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B

[Dean VP]

Chris:

I don't have the part number for the kit to upgrade a 1939 or 1940 hand
start B to Electric Start/Electric Lights. However, I did get the pricing
information for the upgrade from an ATIS JD List member. The part number may
have been included in the price list but I don't have it.  Duane Larsen here
on the list may be able to provide it. 

However, I'm not sure that number will help you much as I would fall over
dead if you found a NOS kit anywhere. But stranger things have happened.
I've discussed the upgrade kit with several list members and if my memory
serves the only record we have found that the upgrade kit even existed comes
from the price list reference. I don't think anyone has found any written
literature on it or documents on what was included in the kit. If found or
available I would be all over it like stink on manure. 

I have occasionally seen some of the unique Slant Dash B parts show up on
eBay occasionally such as the cast Slanted Dash and starter mounting
bracket. The right Delco number starter showed up on eBay recently and it
went for such a high price I had to back away from it. 

I suspect there are a few antique tractor salvage yards in the Midwest or
East that would have a few of the Slant Dash B parts but I hate to think of
what those parts might cost. I think you would then completely understand
why I jumped all over the 1940 Slant Dash B that I found as part of the
group of 5 tractors that you got involved in. If it would have been a hand
start 1940 B, I would have called it a parts tractor. Since it was a
legitimate Slant Dash B, it made all the difference in the world. Although,
I have had some observations that this tractor may be one that was upgraded
rather than built that way from the factory. One of the parts on the tractor
has caused me to wonder a bit. Doesn't really matter any more because I have
found the right replacement part. 

Do you want me to check the rim width on my pressed steel wheels? If memory
serves there were several widths offered. As I recall there were 8, 9, 10 &
11" pressed steel rims offered on the styled B's. I would guess that mine
are less than the 11" version but I don't remember what sized tires are
presently on them. 

I need to get the tires dismounted anyway so if the spirit moves, I'll know
more fairly soon. 

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

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-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Chris C
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:31 PM
To: Antique John Deere mailing list
Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B

Dean,

    No you are right on,  I had not re-read your
article at the time I replied to your e-mail.  It
would appear that I answered my own question when I
asked it.  Can't be done without retrofitting the
tractor.  I thought maybe there would be something
like the H light bar that clamps onto the steering
column to add lights without a drastic remodel of the
tractor.  Do you happen to know what the part number
would be of the kit that you had to order for a 39 B
to convert it?  Just curious,  I think I am just not
going to operate the 39B in the dark...

    On the wheels,  I am looking find a narrower set
of wheels for the 44A.  It already has 12.4-38 wheels
that are beyond repairable. I bought a set of pressed
steel wheels that will take the 12.4-38 up to 15-38
tires,  but they look pretty goofy with the 12.4 tires
on them.  Just exploring options.  

               Chris

--- Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:

> Chris:
> 
> Now you have me really confused. The article very
> clearly delineates what it
> takes to make a Slant Dash B out of a Hand Start 39
> or 40 B. Or at least I
> thought it did.  There are no other alternatives
> offered by JD to add lights
> and/or Starting to a hand start 39 or 40 B. 
> 
> The 39 B I parted out had pressed steel wheel
> centers and they appear to be
> in really good shape although I don't have the tires
> off yet. If you are
> interested in this type of wheel center I will
> dismount the tires and make
> sure the rims are in good shape. Yes, they are for
> sale.
> 
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
> 
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> 
> www.deerelegacy.com
> 
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Chris C
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:40 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
> 
> Dean,
> 
>     I am using PC-330.  I guess I will need keep my
> eye out for the originals you mentioned.   I did
> read
> your article in the newsletter.   I thought you were
> refering to Sland Dash B's,  which mine is not.  You
> have seen it,  it's the one I bought from Dave.   
> 
>     While we are on the subject of 39 B's,  I don't
> recall what the 39 you parted out had for wheels... 
> What were they,  do you still have them,  are they
> for
> sale.  etc.  etc...
> 
>                       Chris
> 
> --- Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
> 
> > Chris:
> > 
> > The 1939 and 1940 hand Start B's are unique in how
> > lights and starting were
> > added. If you are using PC330 to try to figure it
> > out you will become more
> > confused than you really want to have happen. I
> had
> > real trouble figuring it
> > out until I got my hands on the original Repair
> > Catalogs 49-R & 58-R dated
> > April 1942 and August 1943 respectively. The Slant
> > Dash B's were the
> > solution for electrical lighting and starting on
> > these two years tractors.
> > Slant dash B's have many changes to accommodate
> > these options. And JD did
> > sell an upgrade kit to upgrade a hand start to an
> > electric start version.
> > 
> > I just published a 4 page article on all of this,
> of
> > which half has been
> > published in the local Two Cylinder Club
> newsletter
> > with the remaining half
> > to be published in the next "spring" newsletter. I
> > assume you are no longer
> > receiving this newsletter. 
> > 
> > I will send you the whole article to your private
> > email address so you can
> > get the full picture. 
> > 
> > >From 1941 on there were the long hood B's with
> the
> > options and the hand
> > start versions as well but they were quite
> different
> > from the 1939 and 1940
> > Slant Dash versions.
> > 
> > Dean A. Van Peursem
> > Snohomish, WA 98290
> > 
> > Forbidden fruits create many jams!
> > 
> > www.deerelegacy.com
> > 
> > http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
>
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
> > On Behalf Of
> > Chris C
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:39 PM
> > To: ATIS LIST
> > Subject: [AJD] Light mounting on 39 hand start B
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     I have been studying my parts manual and am
> > curious as to how one would mount lights on an
> early
> > styled B,  Hand start.  Lighting and generators
> are
> > shown as an option,  but my parts catalog only
> show
> > light brackets (front) for a cast dash B serial
> > numbers 60000 to 200999.  My B is serial number
> > 91714.
> >  It has a tin dash.  No holes or places to add the
> > light mounts shown for that serial number.  On the
> > later B's it shows the bars mounts that screw into
> > the
> > steering support.  I don't believe that those work
> > with the early steering support on mine.  
> > 
> >      My question?  How do I mount lights on this
> > tractor?  Or,  if I were a farmer in 1939 wanting
> to
> > add lights,  generator and batter to this tractor,
> 
> > would I have to 'convert' to the long hood,  cast
> > dash
> > tractor to accomplish this?
> > 
> >                       Chris
> > 
> > 
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