[AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.

Richard Strobel Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com
Tue Jan 3 05:20:36 PST 2006


Thanks again guys for this info..I am forwarding them to Kenn as they 
arrive.  He also gives a big thanks.  Soon he will go back out to the ranch 
and take more pictures and look for casting marks.

later,
RickinMt.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.


> My Fageol tractor has a four cylinder Lycoming engine
> and it looks nothing like the "mystery " engine.
>
> The timing cover on the mystery engine looks very much
> like the cover on the Hercules IXB engine in my Silver
> King and and also like the timing cover used on the
> Hercules NXB engines in the JD L. The 4 cylinder IXB
> and two cylinder NXB used the same pistons and
> connecting rods. Some other parts, such as the timing
> cover, were at least similar, if not the same. I am
> not sure that the mystery engine is an IXB. It might
> be, but it looks smaller in relation to the magneto
> and fan. Hercules did make smaller 4 cylinder engines,
> but I am not too familiar with them. The smaller model
> was a ZXB.
>
> Regarding the manifold, most Hercules IXB engines do
> have "Hercules" cast into that part. However, my
> restored Silver King has "Silver King" cast into the
> manifold and I have a parts Silver King that has a
> manifold with no name cast into it.
>
> John Boehm
> Woodland, CA
> Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>
>
>
> --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > John,
> > Yes, that is what I thought but the pix of the
> > manifold in the parts book
> > shows Hercules cast in, and I think I have seen such
> > manifolds.  As I recall
> > the comment was made that no casting info was
> > observed.  And I have not seen
> > many Lycoming engines so I don't know what casting
> > info they have.  I ran
> > across the baler/Lycoming info this afternoon while
> > sorting through some
> > stuff - have you run into Lycoming engines?
> > Regards,
> > Duane
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> >
> >
> > > The timing gear cover is definitely Hercules.
> > >
> > > John Boehm
> > > Woodland, CA
> > > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Richard,
> > >> Going through some of my literature today, and it
> > >> appears that style gas
> > >> tank was also used with a Lycoming 26 hp engine
> > on
> > >> the JD Windrow Pick-Up
> > >> Press built around 1936-38 (today we call 'em hay
> > >> balers).  So, if the
> > >> manifold does not have Hercules cast in, perhaps
> > it
> > >> could be a Lycoming from
> > >> a baler.
> > >> Duane Larson
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Duane Larson" <jdlarson at comcast.net>
> > >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:52 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Richard,
> > >> > I think the gas tank (and engine) are from an
> > >> early JD combine.  I have a
> > >> > collection of combine literature but it will
> > take
> > >> some looking to figure
> > >> > it out.  It is NOT a JD engine - they used
> > various
> > >> brands on their early
> > >> > combines, but the gas tanks looked like that.
> > Is
> > >> there any hint - casting
> > >> > name or numbers - that would help pin the
> > engine
> > >> down?  Of course, someone
> > >> > may know and that would be great!
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmm - a quick check shows a similar gas tank on
> > >> the JD No. 7 8-ft combine.
> > >> > It used a Hercules IXB 4 cylinder engine with
> > an
> > >> eight gallon gas tank.
> > >> > The engine manifold has Hercules cast into it.
> > As
> > >> I recall the gas tanks
> > >> > were painted red.
> > >> > Duane Larson
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> > From: "Richard Strobel"
> > <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> > >> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > >> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >> > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:13 PM
> > >> > Subject: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Howdy all:
> > >> >>  Can anyone ID this engine and possible
> > provide
> > >> some info on it?  This is
> > >> >> for a new acquaintance Kenn K.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/60686285/533623620kbMQHu
> > >> >>
> > >> >> and hit next for another pix.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> TIA
> > >> >> RickinMt.
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