[AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.

[John Boehm]

My Fageol tractor has a four cylinder Lycoming engine
and it looks nothing like the "mystery " engine. 

The timing cover on the mystery engine looks very much
like the cover on the Hercules IXB engine in my Silver
King and and also like the timing cover used on the
Hercules NXB engines in the JD L. The 4 cylinder IXB
and two cylinder NXB used the same pistons and
connecting rods. Some other parts, such as the timing
cover, were at least similar, if not the same. I am
not sure that the mystery engine is an IXB. It might
be, but it looks smaller in relation to the magneto
and fan. Hercules did make smaller 4 cylinder engines,
but I am not too familiar with them. The smaller model
was a ZXB. 

Regarding the manifold, most Hercules IXB engines do
have "Hercules" cast into that part. However, my
restored Silver King has "Silver King" cast into the
manifold and I have a parts Silver King that has a
manifold with no name cast into it.

John Boehm
Woodland, CA
Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com



--- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:

> John,
> Yes, that is what I thought but the pix of the
> manifold in the parts book 
> shows Hercules cast in, and I think I have seen such
> manifolds.  As I recall 
> the comment was made that no casting info was
> observed.  And I have not seen 
> many Lycoming engines so I don't know what casting
> info they have.  I ran 
> across the baler/Lycoming info this afternoon while
> sorting through some 
> stuff - have you run into Lycoming engines?
> Regards,
> Duane
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Boehm" <rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> 
> 
> > The timing gear cover is definitely Hercules.
> >
> > John Boehm
> > Woodland, CA
> > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Richard,
> >> Going through some of my literature today, and it
> >> appears that style gas
> >> tank was also used with a Lycoming 26 hp engine
> on
> >> the JD Windrow Pick-Up
> >> Press built around 1936-38 (today we call 'em hay
> >> balers).  So, if the
> >> manifold does not have Hercules cast in, perhaps
> it
> >> could be a Lycoming from
> >> a baler.
> >> Duane Larson
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Duane Larson" <jdlarson at comcast.net>
> >> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Richard,
> >> > I think the gas tank (and engine) are from an
> >> early JD combine.  I have a
> >> > collection of combine literature but it will
> take
> >> some looking to figure
> >> > it out.  It is NOT a JD engine - they used
> various
> >> brands on their early
> >> > combines, but the gas tanks looked like that. 
> Is
> >> there any hint - casting
> >> > name or numbers - that would help pin the
> engine
> >> down?  Of course, someone
> >> > may know and that would be great!
> >> >
> >> > Hmm - a quick check shows a similar gas tank on
> >> the JD No. 7 8-ft combine.
> >> > It used a Hercules IXB 4 cylinder engine with
> an
> >> eight gallon gas tank.
> >> > The engine manifold has Hercules cast into it. 
> As
> >> I recall the gas tanks
> >> > were painted red.
> >> > Duane Larson
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Richard Strobel"
> <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
> >> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:13 PM
> >> > Subject: [AJD] Mystery JD 4 cyl.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Howdy all:
> >> >>  Can anyone ID this engine and possible
> provide
> >> some info on it?  This is
> >> >> for a new acquaintance Kenn K.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://community.webshots.com/photo/60686285/533623620kbMQHu
> >> >>
> >> >> and hit next for another pix.
> >> >>
> >> >> TIA
> >> >> RickinMt.
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