[AT] 3Ph, etc.

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Sun Jan 1 12:06:39 PST 2006


Hi Carl,

Every time I think I know something about electricity I find out I know less 
than I thought I knew before I thought I knew anything.  LOL.

Actually it has just never really interested me much because you can't see 
it work and it will slip up on you and hurt you.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] 3Ph, etc.


> If the power pole outside your house carries three primary wires, it is 3 
> phase, if there are only two wires it is single phase.  Usually there 
> isn't a neutral carried in 3 phase which was a surprise to me when my 
> power engineering friends corrected me many many moons ago.
>
> A typical residential tap (i.e. single phase) attaches to one of the 
> phases and the next pace down the street will tap into one of the other 
> phases in an effort to keep the loads balanced.
>
> I have 3 phase in front of the house, but did not want to pay extra for 
> the 3 phase system, besides everything is 208 volts instead of 220 and 
> will have slightly higher losses because of the extra current to make the 
> same power draw.
> Carl Gogol
> Manlius, NY
> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> Kubota F-2400
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
>
>
>> Ted,
>>
>> That's pretty much the way it is here.  It's available but you have to 
>> convince the power company (read pay them) to hook you up.
>>
>> Bear,
>>
>> We don't have an oil patch here so unless there is we are in the line 
>> between a sub station and an industrial facility, big grain mill, or some 
>> place else that has high horsepower motors you aren't likely to get 3ph. 
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but it's basically available anywhere if there 
>> are two primaries and a neutral on the pole and you can get the power 
>> company to put in the right transformer but for some reason they are 
>> stingy with it here.   I'm not an electrician so I might be way off base 
>> there.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <TCHARPE at aol.com>
>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:29 PM
>> Subject: [AT] 3Ph, etc.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        I asked the power company about installing 3Ph and it available 
>>> just
>>> 500 ft down
>>>        the street.   They wanted $3700 to run the line to my house. 
>>> The
>>> poles were
>>>        already in place...they would just need to run the lines and 
>>> change
>>> the transformer.
>>>        Also the cost for power would nearly double.  Told them to forget 
>>> it
>>> !!
>>>
>>>       I installed a static converter for my lathe and Bridgeport mill 
>>> and
>>> they run fine.
>>>       Tried to get Bridgeport Co to install a single phase motor but 
>>> they
>>> wouldn't even
>>>       consider it at that time.   Maybe they have changed their thinking 
>>> by
>>> now.
>>>
>>>       Ted Harper
>>>
>>>       By the time you decide to look for greener pastures,
>>>       you're too old to jump the fence.
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