[AJD] Styled G Governor Rebuild (Pictures uploaded)
Spencer Yost
yostsw at atis.net
Mon Feb 27 16:20:46 PST 2006
Great pics by the way. I think Duane is on the right track - there is
enough metal here I think you can machine them as well. Most
machinists/automotive machine shops will do a one off job like this pretty
cheap if you let them do it on their own schedule. You might what to check
them if you you don;t have a way to grind with some measure of precision
(doesn't have to be perfect but an angle grinder and a vise isn't what you
want.)
Spencer Yost
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On 2/26/2006 at 10:30 PM Duane Larson wrote:
>Bill,
>I believe you would save a bunch of $$ if you could remove the ~0.020"
>from
>the sleeve. It is hard material and I chose to grind mine rather than try
>to cut it. I attached a Dremel tool to my lathe crosspiece and ground off
>about 0.001"/pass (but it took several passes to get 0.001 off). That way
>there is minimal stress on the sleeve. You don't have to remove all the
>holes, but enough that the forks will slide smoothly. A better grinding
>tool could be made, for sure, but I didn't have to take that much off. If
>you try it, you have nothing to lose. I would also smooth the faces of
>the
>fork that rides on the sleeve.
>Regards,
>Duane Larson
>
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>> Spencer,
>> I have uploaded 5 pictures of the sleeve to the Incoming section of the
>> ATIS Image Depot. I tried to check the depth of the indentations on the
>> edge and found it to be approximately .020 or about 1/5 of the original
>> flange thickness of .100. I am looking forward to your feedback.
>>
>> Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> Do you have a picture of the marks? Duane is right - it has some meat to
>> it and can take some grinding. I'd like to see the problem. Just take
>> a quick digital pic, login to the image depot, upload to the incoming
>> driectory, and then post a mesage to the list saying it is there.
>>
>> Spencer Yost
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>> On 2/24/2006 at 3:56 PM bill gray wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to Duane Larson's recommendation I purchased Robert's video on
>>>overhauling a governor and I am about complete in my repair. The one
>>>problem I a still have is with the sleeve. Mine has several deep pits in
>>>the face where apparently it took too much force to move it since the
>pits
>>>match the weight arms. Duane had suggested grinding the face smooth but
I
>>>am afraid the pits are so deep that I would have to remove near half of
>>>the material to remove them.
>>> I checked and new sleeves are available but Deere is quite proud of
them
>>>($90.00). I was thinking of trying to build the face up with either weld
>>>material or some type of epoxy such as JB Weld then grinding it smooth.
>>>Then I suppose I could leave it as is since the pitting is the only
>>>problem.
>>> Anyone's thoughts on this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Gray
>>>Tifton 44 Bermuda Hay Operations
>>>In Use John Deere 4000 and 430W
>>>Rework in Progress John Deere 430T, Styled G
>>>
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>>>Roman">Thanks to Duane Larson's recommendation I purchased Robert's
>> video
>>>on overhauling a governor and I am about complete in my repair. The one
>>>problem I a still have is with the sleeve.>yes"> Mine has several deep
>>>pits in the face where apparently
>>>it took too much force to move it since the pits match the weight
>>>arms. Duane had suggested
>>>grinding the face smooth but I am afraid the pits are so deep that I
>would
>>>have to remove near half of the material to remove
>>>them.>style="mso-spacerun: yes">
>>>class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Roman">I
>>>checked and new sleeves are available but Deere is quite proud of them
>>>($90.00). I was thinking of
>>>trying to build the face up with either weld material or some type of
>>>epoxy
>>> such as
>>> JB Weld then grinding it smooth. Then I suppose I could leave it as is
>>>since the pitting is the only problem.
>> class=MsoNormal
>>>style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Anyone's
>> thoughts
>>>on this problem would be appreciated!
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> color=#2d2d2d>Bill
>>>Gray
>> Tifton 44 Bermuda Hay
>>>Operations
>> In
>> Use
>>>John Deere 4000 and 430W
>>
>>> Rework in Progress John
>> Deere
>>>430T, Styled G
>>
>>
>>
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>> <DIV>Spencer,</DIV> <DIV>I have uploaded 5 pictures of the sleeve to
>the
>> Incoming section of the ATIS Image Depot. I tried to check the
>depth
>> of the indentations on the edge and found it to be approximately .020 or
>> about 1/5 of the original flange thickness of .100. I am looking
>> forward to your feedback.<BR><BR><B><I>Spencer Yost
>> <yostsw at atis.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
>> style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
>> solid">Hey Bill,<BR><BR>Do you have a picture of the marks? Duane is
>> right - it has some meat to<BR>it and can take some grinding. I'd like
>to
>> see the problem. Just take<BR>a quick digital pic, login to the image
>> depot, upload to the incoming<BR>driectory, and then post a mesage to
>the
>> list saying it is there. <BR><BR>Spencer Yost<BR><BR>*********** REPLY
>> SEPARATOR ***********<BR><BR>On 2/24/2006 at 3:56 PM bill gray
>> wrote:<BR><BR>>Thanks to Duane Larson's recommendation I purchased
>> Robert's video
>> on<BR>>overhauling a governor and I am about complete in my repair.
>The
>> one<BR>>problem I a still have is with the sleeve. Mine has several
>> deep pits in<BR>>the face where apparently it took too much force to
>> move it since the pits<BR>>match the weight arms. Duane had suggested
>> grinding the face smooth but I<BR>>am afraid the pits are so deep
>that
>> I would have to remove near half of<BR>>the material to remove them.
>> <BR>> I checked and new sleeves are available but Deere is quite
>proud
>> of them<BR>>($90.00). I was thinking of trying to build the face up
>> with either weld<BR>>material or some type of epoxy such as JB Weld
>> then grinding it smooth.<BR>>Then I suppose I could leave it as is
>> since the pitting is the only<BR>>problem.<BR>> Anyone's thoughts
>on
>> this problem would be appreciated! <BR>><BR>><BR>>Bill Gray
>> <BR>>Tifton 44 Bermuda Hay Operations<BR>>In Use John Deere 4000
>and
>> 430W <BR>>Rework in Progress John Deere 430T
>> , Styled
>> G <BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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>> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
>> face="Times<br>New<br>>Roman">Thanks to Duane Larson's recommendation I
>> purchased Robert's<BR>video<BR>>on overhauling a governor and I am
>> about complete in my repair. The one<BR>>problem I a still have is
>with
>> the sleeve.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: <br>>yes"> </SPAN>Mine has
>> several deep pits in the face where apparently<BR>>it took too much
>> force to move it since the pits match the weight<BR>>arms.<SPAN
>> style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Duane had
>> suggested<BR>>grinding the face smooth but I am afraid the pits are
>so
>> deep that I would<BR>>have to remove near half of the materia
>> l to
>> remove them.<SPAN<BR>>style="mso-spacerun: yes">
>> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV<BR>>class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in
>> 0pt"><FONT face="Times New<br>Roman">I<BR>>checked and new sleeves
>> are available but Deere is quite proud of them<BR>>($90.00).<SPAN
>> style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was thinking of<BR>>trying
>to
>> build the face up with either weld material or some type of<BR>>epoxy
>> <BR>> such as<BR>> JB Weld then grinding it smooth. Then I suppose
>I
>> could leave it as is<BR>>since the pitting is the only
>problem.</FONT>
>> <DIV></DIV><DIV<BR>class=MsoNormal<BR>>style="MARGIN: 0in 0in
>> 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Anyone's<BR>thoughts<BR>>on this
>> problem would be appreciated! </FONT> <DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
><DIV><BR>>
>> <DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT color=#60bf00><FONT
>> color=#00bf60><FONT<BR>color=#2d2d2d>Bill<BR>>Gray</FONT>
>> <BR></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#2d2d2d>Tifton 44 Bermuda
>> Hay<BR>>Operations</FONT><FONT
>> color=#3b5738><BR></FONT><FONT color=#00bf60>In<BR>Use<BR>>John Deere
>> 4000 and 430W </FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT
>color=#00bf60><FONT
>> color=#00bf60>Rework in Progress John<BR>Deere<BR>>430T, Styled
>> G</FONT> <BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR>> <HR
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>> <DIV><FONT color=#60bf00><FONT color=#00bf60><FONT color=#2d2d2d>Bill
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>> Operations</FONT><FONT color=#3b5738><BR></FONT><FONT color=#00bf60>In
>Use
>> John Deere 4000 and 430W </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT color=#00bf60><FONT color=#00bf60>Rework in Progress John
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