[AJD] Re[2]: Delay in messages

[Paul O]

Spencer
Just anotlher vote of confidence. Your efforts are appreciated by many 
people, althouglh I for one, do not fully understand all that you do. I have 
used the service for several years.I look forward each day to what comments 
I might find.I  I have never tried to measure response time, maybe because I 
do not feel that it is important. Except for a situation where someone is 
anxiously waiting for an answer to his problem, a few hours one way or the 
other do not matter. I view this forum as similar to a bunch of old geezers 
sitting around having coffee, telling stories. Enjoyable to the participants 
and often beneficial, but never
the top priority in our lives.

I would like to hear about the origin of ATIS. I am sure there are others 
like me who just started using the service without knowing anything about 
the inner-workings. How did it start, what do you need to do to keep it 
going? Also, I know there is a charity auction during the Portland, Indiana 
show. Would you elaborate on that?

Paul Ostrander


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Cc: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:21 PM
Subject: [AJD] Re[2]: Delay in messages


>
> I almost didn't send this, but I now realize the now is the time to speak
> plainly.   I am sending this in reply to Dean's message but it is intended
> for who think like him.  In short?  I am tired.  Tired of being used and
> tired of being abused by hostile petty men.   From them I get nothing but
> BS, trouble, silly complaints and stupid remarks, even when presented with
> honest and fair explanations.  I just can't listen to them any more.   I
> feel like I am on a State ditch digging crew.   Some of us got the shovel
> and sweat while Dean's crowd sits on the side leaning on their shovels
> saying anything that comes to mind without any semblance of self control.
>
> What do I want?    Simple - A return to mature tough attitudes,
> forbearance, and tolerance.  It would help me tremendously if everyone
> remembered that I am trying to do something TOTALLY FREE here.   That very
> rare in this day and time and you can not appreciate it, that fine.  I've
> got no problem with that.   Just allow me to refer you to the other sites
> that sell you cheap Chinese parts, bad manual reprints, bargain store 
> brand
> maintenance items or beg for dfnations like Harri Krishnas (spelling?) at 
> a
> 1970s airport.
>
> In short, I'd rather shut these lists down than take anything more from
> folks of Dean's ilk
>
> Here is that message:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
> Hey Dean,
>
> I challenged you to to volunteer your services to me about 2 years ago 
> when
> you complained about "service levels" and you accepted (I have that email
> so don't deny it).  Unfortunately, when I asked you to do something, you
> made yourself pretty scarce.  I have yet to get a lick of work out of you.
>
> I suggest the water is you.
>
> You, and all the other armchair quarterbacks are hereby requested to get
> the hell off my lists if you want to complain about stuff out of my
> control, especially after I present a clear explanation and evidence
> contrary to your blustery foolishness.  I don't know who you think you are
> to believe that I am here to serve you like this is a commercial
> establishment.   I am your peer and comrade - the one doing all the work
> and spending all the money I might add.  I am _NOT_ your servant.
>
> Go to YTMag or where ever please - I don't need "customers" like you.
> They'll be happy to beg for your donation money.  While your JD is
> knoweldge is tremendous and impressive, you are, as a subscriber, of
> negative net worth to me.
>
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
> Plow the Net!
> http://www.atis.net
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 2/1/2006 at 11:11 AM Dean VP wrote:
>
>>I think it appropriate to use an analogy to describe this situation. And
>>is
>>intended to help improve and continue our resource here on ATIS which is
>>much appreciated.
>>
>>The Analogy:
>>
>>"There are several of us who have asked fellow list members for help
>>because
>>our tractors are not running good. In typical list style various members
>>suggest we may have ignition problems, bad points, bad coils, sticking
>>valves, poor compression, plugged air filters, timing incorrect, float
>>sticking, incorrect settings on the carburetor, etc, etc. After much
>>analysis and diagnostic work we find out that we have all been getting our
>>gas at the same place and the gas we have been putting in our tractors
>>contains 30% water which is the primary cause of all our problems."
>>
>>Relative to delayed or non-existent messages, several of us have
> complained
>>of similar ATIS messaging problems but we all use different ISP's for our
>>emails. And typically are not experiencing similar email delays from other
>>sources. However, there is a common central feeding source for these
>>delayed
>>ATIS emails that our ISP's are having difficulty handling. I suggest it's
>>time to get the water out of the gasoline.
>>
>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>
>
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