[Farmall] 330U info? euro boys

Mon Feb 6 02:02:55 PST 2006

see they are talking about it on farmphoto

http://www.farmphoto.com/photography/message.asp?mid=252602


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cliff king" <crawlerman1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] 330U info?


> You go Mike!!!! And I know what he says to be a fact! He does have a HERD 
> of tractors. It really "gets my goat" at what some of the so-called 
> know-it-alls on here and out in public let their ignorance show by opening 
> up a certain portal mounted in the facial area. Granted, I don't know it 
> all..and I accept that. I had some guy have enough nerve to come up to me 
> at our local show and start knocking two cylinder tractors..when I told 
> him IH made some two cylinders he flat out called me a liar. So here I'm 
> thinkin...yeah..ya moron...maybe you need to go back to grammer school and 
> learn how to read so you can do some research. And this is just my 
> opinion. For what it's worth.
>
> Mike Schmudlach <mschmudlach at charter.net> wrote:  Matthew,
> I think it is great you want to discuss non-American IH tractors.
> I happen to have a herd of French and German built IH tractors.
> You would be surprised at the number of people who are surprised that IH
> built outside of
> the US. I get all sorts of questions at tractor shows when I have a German
> 2 cyl. diesel tractor at a show.
> I think a lot of this has to do with the American narrow mind and (hate to
> say it) arrogance that everything came from here. As long as we keep
> educating 'em.
> I mentioned once that I had a Super Cub and a guy unloaded on me with all 
> of
> his fury that IH never built such a thing and I was full of it, why would 
> I
> fake a tractor, etc.....and this guy was a IH guru that everyone took his
> word as gospel. It is fun to prove those guys wrong.
> Ken Updike told me that the only reason he writes books is to prove the
> "experts" wrong. :-)
> They are still copying IH tractors in India.
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matthew"
>
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] 330U info?
>
>
>> http://www.tpaktopc.net/russiantractors.htm
>>
>> the blue one on steel wheels is a IH variation
>>
>> i think from memory fordson did something over there too......that would
>> explain the one that looks like a N
>>
>> i heard an interesting story, i have a friend who spent 7 years in russia
>> working for CNH, now he is back there with AGCO
>>
>> he heard that IH orginally copied the axial flow design off the DON
> machines
>> in russia, he asked when they started building the DON......they said
>> 1985.......lol
>>
>> do i need to remind a group of IH gurus when the axial flow was
>> concieved?.....lol
>>
>> heres another site of interest
>>
>> http://www.zzgt.ru/prod/fotos/
>>
>> sorry for getting off the beaten track, non US tractors interest me more
>>
>> matthew
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Roberto Rivero"
>> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 2:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] 330U info?
>>
>>
>> I would like to know something about the russians IH tractors, i worked
> with
>> a MTZ or Bielarus, and found, in the mid seventies that the Bielarus
>> tractors were similar to a British B-450 or a Farmall M too.
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>> On 2/3/06, Mike Schmudlach wrote:
>> >
>> > Most people forget IH built a ton of tractors in Germany, France,
> England
>> > and even tractors in
>> > Russia and Poland and of course Australia etc.......
>> > IH was building many utility tractors before 1958.
>> > The B-250 was designed and built in 1955.
>> > The Neuss factory was building utility tractors in 1950.
>> > I would call a W-12 a utility tractor and it was built in 1934.
>> > Mike
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Guy Fay"
>> > To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
>> > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:16 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Farmall] 330U info?
>> >
>> >
>> > > Here goes:
>> > >
>> > > THe 330 is actually a 350, but with a 340 engine. The rest of the
>> > drivvetrain is 350. Just the engine changed.
>> > >
>> > > The 330 and 340 were both built in 1958, but not really at the same
>> > time.
>> > The 330 was discontinued and the 340 went into production. Any actual
>> > overlap would have been short.
>> > >
>> > > Of course, the International 300 was the first utility tractor IH
> built
>> > here in the United States. I don't recall if the B-250 or some of the
> nice
>> > German lines beat it to production.
>> > >
>> > > I guess we would need to seem some images.
>> > > >
>> > > > I did a little research (OK, I looked a a couple of my books and on
>> > > > Google), and it seems that the 330U is a rare bird. They only made
>> > about
>> > > > 1000 of them (almost nothing for IH). They appear to have the 340
>> > drive
>> > > > train and running gear but sheet metal like a Farmall 300 row crop.
>> > > > According to one Website, the International 330U was IH's first
>> > utility
>> > > > tractor, but I don't think that is correct.
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike
>> > > >
>> > > > Ferg8n9n at aol.com wrote:
>> > > > > I have a military tractor similar to a 340, no tag, can you
>> > identify?
>> > > > > also a little newer one, no tag
>> > > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Mike Sloane
>> > > > Allamuchy NJ
>> > > > mikesloane at verizon.net
>> > > > Website:
>> > > > Images:
>> > > >
>> > > > Truth is not only violated by falsehood; it may be equally outraged
> by
>> > > > silence. -Henri Frederic Amiel philosopher and writer (1821-1881)
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