[AJD] Re[2]: Delay in messages

[Mitchell Daly]

Spencer,

Thank you for all that you do as a free service.  Years ago, I tried to run a bulletin board service for some of my work compatriots and it was always tough to get the group to help and support my volunteer efforts.  I realize that it is not an easy task.  The other day I sent a message about the time it took for one that I sent out to be returned to me. It wasn't very long. My reason for sending it was to let all know that the system does work and in a timely fashion.  When we consider the enormous size of the internet, it still amazes me how fast it works. 

I hope that you don't get so discouraged that you stop providing all of us with the valuable service that you work so hard on.  I support you totally!!

Mitch Daly
md31043 at msn.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Spencer Yost<mailto:yostsw at atis.net> 
  To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
  Cc: at at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:21 PM
  Subject: [AJD] Re[2]: Delay in messages


  I almost didn't send this, but I now realize the now is the time to speak
  plainly.   I am sending this in reply to Dean's message but it is intended
  for who think like him.  In short?  I am tired.  Tired of being used and
  tired of being abused by hostile petty men.   From them I get nothing but
  BS, trouble, silly complaints and stupid remarks, even when presented with
  honest and fair explanations.  I just can't listen to them any more.   I
  feel like I am on a State ditch digging crew.   Some of us got the shovel
  and sweat while Dean's crowd sits on the side leaning on their shovels
  saying anything that comes to mind without any semblance of self control.

  What do I want?    Simple - A return to mature tough attitudes,
  forbearance, and tolerance.  It would help me tremendously if everyone
  remembered that I am trying to do something TOTALLY FREE here.   That very
  rare in this day and time and you can not appreciate it, that fine.  I've
  got no problem with that.   Just allow me to refer you to the other sites
  that sell you cheap Chinese parts, bad manual reprints, bargain store brand
  maintenance items or beg for dfnations like Harri Krishnas (spelling?) at a
  1970s airport.

  In short, I'd rather shut these lists down than take anything more from
  folks of Dean's ilk

  Here is that message:
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  Hey Dean,

  I challenged you to to volunteer your services to me about 2 years ago when
  you complained about "service levels" and you accepted (I have that email
  so don't deny it).  Unfortunately, when I asked you to do something, you
  made yourself pretty scarce.  I have yet to get a lick of work out of you.

  I suggest the water is you.

  You, and all the other armchair quarterbacks are hereby requested to get
  the hell off my lists if you want to complain about stuff out of my
  control, especially after I present a clear explanation and evidence
  contrary to your blustery foolishness.  I don't know who you think you are
  to believe that I am here to serve you like this is a commercial
  establishment.   I am your peer and comrade - the one doing all the work
  and spending all the money I might add.  I am _NOT_ your servant.

  Go to YTMag or where ever please - I don't need "customers" like you.
  They'll be happy to beg for your donation money.  While your JD is
  knoweldge is tremendous and impressive, you are, as a subscriber, of
  negative net worth to me.  

  Spencer Yost
  Owner, ATIS
  Plow the Net!
  http://www.atis.net<http://www.atis.net/>

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  On 2/1/2006 at 11:11 AM Dean VP wrote:

  >I think it appropriate to use an analogy to describe this situation. And
  >is
  >intended to help improve and continue our resource here on ATIS which is
  >much appreciated.
  >
  >The Analogy:
  >
  >"There are several of us who have asked fellow list members for help
  >because
  >our tractors are not running good. In typical list style various members
  >suggest we may have ignition problems, bad points, bad coils, sticking
  >valves, poor compression, plugged air filters, timing incorrect, float
  >sticking, incorrect settings on the carburetor, etc, etc. After much
  >analysis and diagnostic work we find out that we have all been getting our
  >gas at the same place and the gas we have been putting in our tractors
  >contains 30% water which is the primary cause of all our problems." 
  >
  >Relative to delayed or non-existent messages, several of us have
  complained
  >of similar ATIS messaging problems but we all use different ISP's for our
  >emails. And typically are not experiencing similar email delays from other
  >sources. However, there is a common central feeding source for these
  >delayed
  >ATIS emails that our ISP's are having difficulty handling. I suggest it's
  >time to get the water out of the gasoline. 
  >
  >Dean A. Van Peursem
  >Snohomish, WA 98290
  >
  >Forbidden fruits create many jams!
  >
  >www.deerelegacy.com
  >
  >http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
  >


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