[AT] Re[2]: Delay in messages

Louis louis at kellnet.com
Thu Feb 2 11:59:11 PST 2006


Spencer,

Is there anything that I can do to help you with ATIS?  I am not that
literate about internet stuff, but if there is grunt work that I can help
with from my end here, I will try to help you.

Thank you again Spencer.

Lou

-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:21 PM
To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
Cc: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: [AT] Re[2]: Delay in messages


I almost didn't send this, but I now realize the now is the time to speak
plainly.   I am sending this in reply to Dean's message but it is intended
for who think like him.  In short?  I am tired.  Tired of being used and
tired of being abused by hostile petty men.   From them I get nothing but
BS, trouble, silly complaints and stupid remarks, even when presented with
honest and fair explanations.  I just can't listen to them any more.   I
feel like I am on a State ditch digging crew.   Some of us got the shovel
and sweat while Dean's crowd sits on the side leaning on their shovels
saying anything that comes to mind without any semblance of self control.

What do I want?    Simple - A return to mature tough attitudes,
forbearance, and tolerance.  It would help me tremendously if everyone
remembered that I am trying to do something TOTALLY FREE here.   That very
rare in this day and time and you can not appreciate it, that fine.  I've
got no problem with that.   Just allow me to refer you to the other sites
that sell you cheap Chinese parts, bad manual reprints, bargain store brand
maintenance items or beg for dfnations like Harri Krishnas (spelling?) at a
1970s airport.

In short, I'd rather shut these lists down than take anything more from
folks of Dean's ilk

Here is that message:
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Hey Dean,

I challenged you to to volunteer your services to me about 2 years ago when
you complained about "service levels" and you accepted (I have that email so
don't deny it).  Unfortunately, when I asked you to do something, you made
yourself pretty scarce.  I have yet to get a lick of work out of you.

I suggest the water is you.

You, and all the other armchair quarterbacks are hereby requested to get the
hell off my lists if you want to complain about stuff out of my control,
especially after I present a clear explanation and evidence contrary to your
blustery foolishness.  I don't know who you think you are to believe that I
am here to serve you like this is a commercial
establishment.   I am your peer and comrade - the one doing all the work
and spending all the money I might add.  I am _NOT_ your servant.

Go to YTMag or where ever please - I don't need "customers" like you.
They'll be happy to beg for your donation money.  While your JD is knoweldge
is tremendous and impressive, you are, as a subscriber, of negative net
worth to me.  

Spencer Yost
Owner, ATIS
Plow the Net!
http://www.atis.net

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On 2/1/2006 at 11:11 AM Dean VP wrote:

>I think it appropriate to use an analogy to describe this situation. 
>And is intended to help improve and continue our resource here on ATIS 
>which is much appreciated.
>
>The Analogy:
>
>"There are several of us who have asked fellow list members for help 
>because our tractors are not running good. In typical list style 
>various members suggest we may have ignition problems, bad points, bad 
>coils, sticking valves, poor compression, plugged air filters, timing 
>incorrect, float sticking, incorrect settings on the carburetor, etc, 
>etc. After much analysis and diagnostic work we find out that we have 
>all been getting our gas at the same place and the gas we have been 
>putting in our tractors contains 30% water which is the primary cause 
>of all our problems."
>
>Relative to delayed or non-existent messages, several of us have
complained
>of similar ATIS messaging problems but we all use different ISP's for 
>our emails. And typically are not experiencing similar email delays 
>from other sources. However, there is a common central feeding source 
>for these delayed ATIS emails that our ISP's are having difficulty 
>handling. I suggest it's time to get the water out of the gasoline.
>
>Dean A. Van Peursem
>Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>
>www.deerelegacy.com
>
>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>


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