[AJD] Delay in messages

[Ed Allandar]

BTW there was an hour and 16 minute difference when this message hit my 2
accounts.

Ed Allandar
VP Service & Parts
Rohrer Bus Service
P.O. Box 100  - 1515 State Road
Duncannon, PA 17020
717.957.5114
717.418.4401 (c)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Dean VP
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:11 PM
To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
Cc: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: RE: [AJD] Delay in messages

I think it appropriate to use an analogy to describe this situation. And is
intended to help improve and continue our resource here on ATIS which is
much appreciated.

The Analogy:

"There are several of us who have asked fellow list members for help because
our tractors are not running good. In typical list style various members
suggest we may have ignition problems, bad points, bad coils, sticking
valves, poor compression, plugged air filters, timing incorrect, float
sticking, incorrect settings on the carburetor, etc, etc. After much
analysis and diagnostic work we find out that we have all been getting our
gas at the same place and the gas we have been putting in our tractors
contains 30% water which is the primary cause of all our problems." 

Relative to delayed or non-existent messages, several of us have complained
of similar ATIS messaging problems but we all use different ISP's for our
emails. And typically are not experiencing similar email delays from other
sources. However, there is a common central feeding source for these delayed
ATIS emails that our ISP's are having difficulty handling. I suggest it's
time to get the water out of the gasoline. 

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

Forbidden fruits create many jams!

www.deerelegacy.com

http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm



-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Spencer Yost
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:39 PM
To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
Subject: Re: [AJD] Delay in messages

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
On 1/30/2006 at 10:16 AM Dean VP wrote:
>The delay in messages on ATIS is getting to the point it is intolerable. 
>

It isn't ATIS.  All email providers are free to handle a message with a
Precedence header value of "list" any way they choose.  AOL and other
choose to defer messages whenever they are busy, like the value is "bulk".
Others handle just like "Normal" precedence mail.   Look at the header of
the messages and you'll see the difference in the Precedence value between
list message and emails from your friends.  By the way, the lack of a
Precedence header implies "Normal".

By the way, some list operators improperly label their mail "Normal" so
this doesn't happen.  Assigning a precedence value incorrectly to speed
processing is poor form and smacks of childishness and I certainly don't do
it and won't do it. 

Specifically Dean, your email provider is deferring messages.  Here is the
queue file entry:

k0V32b7J014241     1705 Mon Jan 30 22:02
<at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
                 (Deferred)
    
                                         <deanvp at att.net>
    
                                         <jthall at worldnet.att.net>
    

Spencer Yost
Owner, ATIS
Plow the Net!
http://www.atis.net



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