Fw: [AT] 3 Point Backhoes NO GOOD

[Jeff Pilbeam]

Sounds like you have that one under control. I just dont want to see or hear of anymore 3 pt units Breaking tractors, In one case A Man was killed because it pinched him between tractor and hoe. That one was several years ago.

charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net> wrote:  
Jeff, I agree with you about the 3 pt backhoes. I have one. It's a MF
model and I can't tell you the # right now. I bought it cheap and it works
good now that I've made some modifications. I had to modify the 3 pt frame
a bit to get it to hook up to my D-14 but that was minor. Then it only 
took
me a few minutes looking at it hooked to to my tractor to realize the top
link bracket and/or casting didn't have a chance. Here is how I fixed it.
I built a reaction bar that is fastened to the top arm of the backhoe frame
about a foot out from the top link attachment point. It is made from a
piece of 3/4" all thread rod. The other end goes through the hitch hole on
the drawbar. It has a nut above and below the drawbar. That way I can
tighten it up and transfer the torsional load to the drawbar and off of the
top link attachment. Or at least most of it. It helps a lot.
Eventually I intend to figure out how to frame mount it if I don't decide
to get rid of it.

Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Pilbeam" 

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> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:27 PM
> Subject: [AT] 3 Point Backhoes NO GOOD
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>> Gentleman,
>>
>> Here is the real scoop on the Backhoe thing. I have sold probably over 
>> 300 New Tractors in my carreer so far.
>>
>> There is alot of companies that make 3 point backhoes. THEY ARE NO GOOD, 
>> PERIOD
>>
>> You have mentioned breaking the rear of the tractor, YES IT WILL HAPPEN 
>> not a question of if but WHEN.
>>
>> Most all of the SUBFRAME mount Backhoes tie the tractors cast Housings 
>> TOGETHER from Loader Mounting Mid point to Rear axle area. All compact 
>> tractors WILL IN FACT break where the TOP LINK Attaches to the tractor 
>> casting if a 3point unit is used.
>> I have seen and heard of several cases.
>> NOW,, subframe mounts like I Said tie everything together, and the best 
>> thing is MOST ALL of them allow attaching-detaching the backhoe EASIER 
>> than a 3point in the first place. But remain stronger at the mount area.
>>
>> I have a couple pics of a broken Tractor caused by a 3 point hitch 
>> mount. if anyone is interested in them let me know I will email them. The 
>> biggest damage OCCURS when the tractor isnt even using the backhoe but 
>> while just simply driving on uneven ground, (with backhoe attached and 
>> stored in transport position) all the stress is placed on that top link 
>> at the tractors housing.
>>
>>
>> Jeff Pilbeam
>> Sales Consultant
>> Buck & Knobby Equipment Co
>> Pilbeam's Centennial Farm
>>
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