Fw: [AT] 3 Point Backhoes NO GOOD

[charlie hill]

 Jeff,  I agree with you about the 3 pt backhoes.  I have one.  It's a MF
 model and I can't tell you the # right now.  I bought it cheap and it works
 good now that I've made some modifications.  I had to modify the 3 pt frame
 a bit to get it to hook up to my D-14 but that was minor.  Then it only 
took
 me a few minutes looking at it hooked to to my tractor to realize the top
 link bracket and/or casting didn't have a chance.   Here is how I fixed it.
 I built a reaction bar that is fastened to the top arm of the backhoe frame
 about a foot out from the top link attachment point.  It is made from a
 piece of 3/4" all thread rod.  The other end goes through the hitch hole on
 the drawbar.  It has a nut above and below the drawbar.  That way I can
 tighten it up and transfer the torsional load to the drawbar and off of the
 top link attachment.  Or at least most of it.  It helps a lot.
 Eventually I intend to figure  out how to frame mount it if I don't decide
 to get rid of it.

 Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Pilbeam" <pilbeam100 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:27 PM
> Subject: [AT] 3 Point Backhoes NO GOOD
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>> Gentleman,
>>
>>  Here is the real scoop on the Backhoe thing. I have sold probably over 
>> 300  New Tractors in my carreer so far.
>>
>>  There is alot of companies that make 3 point backhoes. THEY ARE NO GOOD, 
>> PERIOD
>>
>>  You have mentioned breaking the rear of the tractor, YES IT WILL HAPPEN 
>> not a question of if but WHEN.
>>
>>  Most all of the SUBFRAME mount Backhoes tie the tractors cast Housings 
>> TOGETHER from Loader Mounting Mid point to Rear axle area. All compact 
>> tractors WILL IN FACT break where the TOP LINK Attaches to the tractor 
>> casting if a 3point unit is used.
>>  I have seen and heard of several cases.
>>  NOW,, subframe mounts like I Said tie everything together, and the best 
>> thing is MOST ALL of them allow  attaching-detaching the backhoe EASIER 
>> than a 3point in the first place. But remain stronger at the mount area.
>>
>>  I have a couple pics of a broken Tractor caused by a 3 point hitch 
>> mount. if anyone is interested in them let me know I will email them. The 
>> biggest damage OCCURS when the tractor isnt even using the backhoe but 
>> while just simply driving on uneven ground, (with backhoe attached and 
>> stored in transport position) all the stress is placed on that top link 
>> at the tractors housing.
>>
>>
>>  Jeff Pilbeam
>>  Sales Consultant
>>  Buck & Knobby Equipment Co
>>  Pilbeam's Centennial Farm
>>
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