[AT] New product panics (was) Detroits

Tue Aug 1 09:05:47 PDT 2006

It is actually a benefit if your running the newer aluminum rims, the 
lack of moisture and oxygen limits corrosion on the rim itself. I run it 
simply because I have tanks of it here anyway.

The detergent oil item is true IF the engine is full of sludge and has 
generally been neglected. Then you usually get leaks due to the 
detergent cleaning those surfaces. The sludge then gets in the pan and 
can block the oil intake screen.

Ken Knierim wrote:
> The discussions about using detergent motor oils after using
> non-detergent oils in an old engine still come up from time to time.
> 
> What about the folks using dry nitrogen in their tires instead of just
> plain old compressed air? that sounds like a heckuva sales job on
> someone's part. "tire pressure remains more equal" or some such. While
> it may be true (ever so slightly), who's gonna know the difference
> unless they're racing?
> 
> Ken in AZ
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/1/06, Indiana Robinson <robinson at svs.net> wrote:
>> On 1 Aug 2006 at 8:06, charlie hill wrote:
>>
>> > Jim I was repeating something I heard on a radio talk show.  I can't
>> > remember exactly which one but it was one of the vehicle 
>> repair/advice shows
>> > on XM Satellite radio.  I don't know if it correct or not but it was
>> > supposed to be a very recent notice.  It might be totally rumor for 
>> all  I
>> > know.   I was only half way listening as I was driving.  I think 
>> they were
>> > saying something about buildup on the valves but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jim & Lyn Evans" <jevans at evanstoys.com>
>> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:05 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [AT] Detroits
>> >
>> >
>> > > I found your statement surprising, so I looked on the net.  
>> Detroit has a
>> > > couple of documents out there.  One says that 20% biodiesel is ok 
>> (2002),
>> > > the other says 5% is ok (2005).  The both say that they will not 
>> warranty
>> > > any fuel problems.  However, I don't think anyone warranties any fuel
>> > > problems- no matter what kind of fuel.  If you put in bad fuel, 
>> there is
>> > > no
>> > > warranty.  That is just common sense.
>> > > The statement about valves doesn't make sense, since bio diesel 
>> has better
>> > > lubrication than #2.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>         Most of us that have been knocking around for a while
>> (which is probably most of us)   <(^¿^)>   can probably recall
>> all sorts of new developments that came with all manner of
>> the most dire warnings... We also recall that most of those
>> warning were totally groundless in the real world. The ones
>> that were real were usually sorted out in the first few years.
>>         My mother bought a new Dodge Aspen SE wagon in 1978.
>>  Lean-burn 318.
>>  She started out from the very first tank of fuel burning absolutely
>> nothing but gasohol. The horrible warnings were coming out of
>> the woodwork about how it was going to ruin everything from the
>> gas tank to the oil drain plug.   <(^¿^)>   She drove it daily for
>> maybe 16 years without problem. When she bought another car
>> I took it and drove it another 5 years or so. It was still a good car
>> when I sold it and all that was ever replaced was the computer
>> box twice, a starter and an alternator, maybe a water pump...
>> We listend for years to warnings about how we were ruining it.
>>         Back years ago when radial tires were somewhat new it was
>>  announced often that if you took one off you HAD to put it back on
>> turning the same direction. When you rotated them it WAS REQUIRED
>> that they be remounted turning the same direction. The warnings
>> were so dire that you were almost afraid to use reverse...   <(^¿^)>
>> I never gave it a huge amount of thought, it was just what you were
>> supposed to do. Then one day I happened to notice that there were
>>  no direction arrows and the used (and recap) tire business
>> ignored direction completely when mounting or dismounting except
>> for whitewall in or out...
>>         Another was the "end of the world" warnings about mixing 
>> radials and
>> bias ply tires on the same car. Then it was OK to mix if the fronts and
>>  rears were pairs. I don't even recall now but I think that the bias were
>> supposed to go on the back. While I run all radials now I have ran (and
>> so have a lot of other people) all sorts of tire mixes in daily driving
>> without any problem. Now I wouldn't recommend that for speed demons
>> or on race cars but if you drive the speed limit if it affects 
>> handling in a
>> serious manner you car has other problems.
>>         BTW, it was not too long after all of those most dire warnings
>> about bad handling that
>> they then started issuing us those truly stupid little awful handling 
>> space
>>  saver spares which many people seem to think are OK to run 80 MPH on.
>> I equate them to putting a work boot on one foot and a flip-flop thong
>> shoe on the other. (we used to call them "thongs" but that means another
>> item these days.   <(^¿^)>
>>
>>         How many other "mostly groundless" (in the real world) dire 
>> warnings
>> can you remember from over the years?
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> "farmer"
>>
>> "The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be
>> continually fearing you will make one."
>> Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)
>>
>>
>> Refurbished Shopsmith's
>> Good used SPT's
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>>
>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> Central Indiana, USA
>> robinson at svs.net
>>
>>
>>
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