[Farmall] Only Slightly off topic: Shop and Storage building forFarmall Tractors

Thu Apr 13 07:26:07 PDT 2006

Greg,  From what you wrote, it occurs to me that floor heating is probaby 
not the way to go for occasional heating/use of the shop....as how I 
probably will use it until I retire.  I might give some thought to putting 
in the pipes now in the cement but not go ahead now with the heating it 
that way until I retire.  Good tip on remember where the pipes are incase 
of one wants to add something later.

Larry

Larry Hardesty
Kearney, Nebraska 68849-2240
308-865-8535
308-865-8722 fax
hardestyll at unk.edu

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On the subject of floor heat I know just enough to be dangerous, but here 
goes. I know two people with it in there shops. Both say it is the 
greatest, however both leave it on from Nov. to the first of May. It is 
not 
the kind of heat you can just turn on an hour before a project; however 
you 
are generally comfortable at a lower temp because your feet are not cold 
and you have no cold floor draft. The first heats with a fuel oil boiler 
which at this years prices costs him over $200 a week. The building ( I'm 
guessing) is about 40 by 60 by 12 feet high. It is heated 24-7 to a 
comfortable temp by he does some work in it every day (at least 50 hrs. 
per 
wk) quite a bit for the Amish, but his main business is ornamental 
railings 
and arbors for roses and such.
The second one owns our local coffee shop, and his is a hobby shop, which 
is constantly heated, but usually only to 40 degrees. The heated part is 
about 24 by35 and is heated with electric grids in the cement. Our local 
Electric Co-op has a special program where your heat is metered seperate 
but you pay half price, central air can also be hooked to this. The catch 
is(isn't there always one) a radio control is hooked to that meter and 
they 
have the right to shut the power off for up to 6 hrs. if they are pushing 
peak load. It may be six mins. or the full time depending on load. Not a 
problem for heat as you are only off a few hours a heating season. Air is 
different, my brotherhas the system in his house and last year in 10 days, 

they had him shut off 5 days until 9 at night. Should have heard him 
scream,he fealt it was his right to have uninterruped service and half 
rate 
power at the same time.  This second shop runs the owner about $100 per 
month.
        The main reason for this post is to warn of a big problem the 
second person has run into. His shop is about 4 years old, and now he 
wants 
to put in a couple of floor hooks to chain things to and install an above 
floor car hoist. However his problem, he has no idea where any of the 
grides are or even which direction they run. So if anyone installs floor 
heat, some unasked for advice, please make a very detailed map of where 
things are. Finally, I have no idea of what either system cost.
Greg Hass
Michigan

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Greg,  From what you wrote, it
occurs to me that floor heating is probaby not the way to go for occasional
heating/use of the shop....as how I probably will use it until I retire.
 I might give some thought to putting in the pipes now in the cement
but not go ahead now with the heating it that way until I retire.  Good
tip on remember where the pipes are incase of one wants to add something
later.
 
 Larry
 
 Larry Hardesty 
Kearney, Nebraska 68849-2240 
308-865-8535 
308-865-8722 fax 
hardestyll at unk.edu
 
 
 
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 <tt>On the subject of floor heat I know just enough to
be dangerous, but here 
goes. I know two people with it in there shops. Both say it is the 
greatest, however both leave it on from Nov. to the first of May. It is
not 
the kind of heat you can just turn on an hour before a project; however
you 
are generally comfortable at a lower temp because your feet are not cold
 
and you have no cold floor draft. The first heats with a fuel oil boiler
 
which at this years prices costs him over $200 a week. The building ( I'm
 
guessing) is about 40 by 60 by 12 feet high. It is heated 24-7 to a 
comfortable temp by he does some work in it every day (at least 50 hrs.
per 
wk) quite a bit for the Amish, but his main business is ornamental railings
 
and arbors for roses and such. 
The second one owns our local coffee shop, and his is a hobby shop, which
 
is constantly heated, but usually only to 40 degrees. The heated part is
 
about 24 by35 and is heated with electric grids in the cement. Our local
 
Electric Co-op has a special program where your heat is metered seperate
 
but you pay half price, central air can also be hooked to this. The catch
 
is(isn't there always one) a radio control is hooked to that meter and
they 
have the right to shut the power off for up to 6 hrs. if they are pushing
 
peak load. It may be six mins. or the full time depending on load. Not
a 
problem for heat as you are only off a few hours a heating season. Air
is 
different, my brotherhas the system in his house and last year in 10 days,
 
they had him shut off 5 days until 9 at night. Should have heard him 
scream,he fealt it was his right to have uninterruped service and half
rate 
power at the same time.  This second shop runs the owner about $100
per month. 
        The main reason for this post is to warn of
a big problem the 
second person has run into. His shop is about 4 years old, and now he wants
 
to put in a couple of floor hooks to chain things to and install an above
 
floor car hoist. However his problem, he has no idea where any of the 
grides are or even which direction they run. So if anyone installs floor
 
heat, some unasked for advice, please make a very detailed map of where
 
things are. Finally, I have no idea of what either system cost. 
Greg Hass 
Michigan 
 
 
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