[Farmall] Only Slightly off topic: Shop and Storage building forFarmall Tractors
James Moran
jrmoraninc at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 12 14:07:55 PDT 2006
LH-
This is going very far afield from the "conversations" that have been going on about your intended project. However, a friend of mine (a very good mechanic and restorer of antique cars) got one of those (how do I describe this) canvas outbuilding units. It went up in no time, did not cost too awfully much, and has been standing straight up for over ten years with minimal maintenance. It is of goodly proportions, too. If you are even remotely interested in that approach, I will ask Tony about it.
I hand built my home in 1976. My wife Cynthia designed it. It is a five level "modern" (which is to say geometric) in style. No two cuts were alike so everything had to be custom fitted. No construction firm would ever have taken on the design because they could not "make time" on it. As it was, it took me five months after (regular) work and weekends to slap it together. That was thirty years ago and I must have done something correctly in that it has yet to fall down.
I like the idea of living in something which I built by hand but I CERTAINLY would not want to do it for a living.
Keep me posted.
JM
BTW...I have a stack of old M's, H's, 340's etc. that would love to live indoors for a change. Let me know when they can "move in". ;-)
Jerry Rhodes <jlrhod at alltel.net> wrote: Larry, having help biuld 100's and installed overhead doors in 1000's of
polebarn, here is what I've found that helps alot, made sure the site in
good and level, saves on fill, that the roof grew put insulation under the
roof tin..stops sweating..I've seen building drip like rain on H& H days, I
would only put a 10x10 door in the shop to the outside and a 12x14 or 14x14
from the shop to the storage area then a 12x14 or 14x14 from the storage
area to the outside ...saves on shop heat whae moving equipment in the
winter...do any thing you think you can handle yourself...with 14' high
doors you will need 16' clear to the eves...not to the bottom of the
overhang but to the bottom trusses...you need 15" clear over the headers of
the doors...and openers that you will want for that size doors...I can get
you some local pricing if you need ..I retired my business about 4 yr ago
( const & doors)..hope this helps, please will me know if you need more info
Jerry NW Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry L Hardesty"
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: [Farmall] Only Slightly off topic: Shop and Storage building
forFarmall Tractors
> Folks, I think this is only slightly off topic. I am thinking of
> building (or having built) a building to serve as a shop and storage
> building for my tractors. I have look at various posts on Yesterday's
> Tractors and elsewhere, but always looking for more good advise to avoid
> $$$$ mistakes.
>
> If money were not object....well, it alwasy is...and compromises will have
> to be made! Anyway, I am thinking of a building about 40' wide by 70' to
> 75' long. Of course, as someone said, such buildings all come in one
> size----"too small." Of course, what is defintely too small is the
> pocket book....so many tractors and so little time!!!
>
> Shop will be at one end about 24' by 40' with a 5" to 6" cement slab. The
> rest will be storage with crush rock or cement or something like that
> floor. I am thinking of two overhead doors (one at each end) perhaps 12'
> wide and 14' high, along with two walk in doors and maybe two or three
> windows.
>
> I have been looking various pole barn manufacturers (Morton, Wicks,
> Cleary, Meinards, Lester, etc.). Even done some looking at all steel
> buildings. Lots of variables and hard to sort them all out (insulation,
> guage of metal, heating, lighting (amount and type), windows, wiring, size
> of building, doors, etc.) Quite willing to learn from positive and not
> so positive experiences of others.
>
> Right now I am thinking of having one of the pole building manufactures
> build the frame and shell, and I work on the insulation, wiring, lighting,
> etc. later. Those things really add to the price and wonder if doing some
> myself and contractoring some out to others might be cheaper than have the
> pole building people do it.
>
> So welcome any and all thoughts....and thanks in advance.
>
>
> Larry Hardesty
> Kearney, Nebraska 68849-2240
> 308-865-8535
> 308-865-8722 fax
> hardestyll at unk.edu
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>
>
>
Folks, I think this is only
> slightly
> off topic. I am thinking of building (or having built) a building
> to serve as a shop and storage building for my tractors. I have look
> at various posts on Yesterday's Tractors and elsewhere, but always looking
> for more good advise to avoid $$$$ mistakes.
>
>
If money were not object....well, it
> alwasy is...and compromises will have to be made! Anyway, I am
> thinking
> of a building about 40' wide by 70' to 75' long. Of course, as
> someone
> said, such buildings all come in one size----"too small."
> Of course, what is defintely too small is the pocket book....so many
> tractors and so little time!!!
>
>
Shop will be at one end about 24' by
> 40' with a 5" to 6" cement slab. The rest will be storage
> with crush rock or cement or something like that floor. I am
> thinking
> of two overhead doors (one at each end) perhaps 12' wide and 14' high,
> along with two walk in doors and maybe two or three windows.
>
>
I have been looking various pole barn
> manufacturers (Morton, Wicks, Cleary, Meinards, Lester, etc.). Even
> done some looking at all steel buildings. Lots of variables and
> hard to sort them all out (insulation, guage of metal, heating, lighting
> (amount and type), windows, wiring, size of building, doors, etc.)
> Quite willing to learn from positive and not so positive experiences of
> others.
>
>
Right now I am thinking of having
> one of the pole building manufactures build the frame and shell, and I
> work on the insulation, wiring, lighting, etc. later. Those things
> really add to the price and wonder if doing some myself and contractoring
> some out to others might be cheaper than have the pole building people
> do it.
>
>
So welcome any and all thoughts....and
> thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Larry Hardesty
> Kearney, Nebraska 68849-2240
> 308-865-8535
> 308-865-8722 fax
> hardestyll at unk.edu
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LH-<br> This is going very far afield from the "conversations" that have been going on about your intended project. However, a friend of mine (a very good mechanic and restorer of antique cars) got one of those (how do I describe this) canvas outbuilding units. It went up in no time, did not cost too awfully much, and has been standing straight up for over ten years with minimal maintenance. It is of goodly proportions, too. If you are even remotely interested in that approach, I will ask Tony about it.<br> I hand built my home in 1976. My wife Cynthia designed it. It is a five level "modern" (which is to say geometric) in style. No two cuts were alike so everything had to be custom fitted. No construction firm would ever have taken on the design because they could not "make time" on it. As it was, it took me five months after (regular) work and weekends to slap it together. That was thirty years ago
and I must have done something correctly in that it has yet to fall down.<br> I like the idea of living in something which I built by hand but I CERTAINLY would not want to do it for a living.<br> Keep me posted.<br> JM<br> BTW...I have a stack of old M's, H's, 340's etc. that would love to live indoors for a change. Let me know when they can "move in". ;-)<br><br><b><i>Jerry Rhodes <jlrhod at alltel.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Larry, having help biuld 100's and installed overhead doors in 1000's of <br>polebarn, here is what I've found that helps alot, made sure the site in <br>good and level, saves on fill, that the roof grew put insulation under the <br>roof tin..stops sweating..I've seen building drip like rain on H& H days, I <br>would only put a 10x10 door in the shop to the outside and a 12x14 or 14x14 <br>from the shop to the storage area
then a 12x14 or 14x14 from the storage <br>area to the outside ...saves on shop heat whae moving equipment in the <br>winter...do any thing you think you can handle yourself...with 14' high <br>doors you will need 16' clear to the eves...not to the bottom of the <br>overhang but to the bottom trusses...you need 15" clear over the headers of <br>the doors...and openers that you will want for that size doors...I can get <br>you some local pricing if you need ..I retired my business about 4 yr ago <br>( const & doors)..hope this helps, please will me know if you need more info<br>Jerry NW Ohio<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Larry L Hardesty" <hardestyll @unk.edu=""><br>To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall @lists.antique-tractor.com=""><br>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:56 AM<br>Subject: [Farmall] Only Slightly off topic: Shop and Storage building <br>forFarmall Tractors<br><br><br>> Folks, I think this is only slightly off topic. I am thinking
of<br>> building (or having built) a building to serve as a shop and storage<br>> building for my tractors. I have look at various posts on Yesterday's<br>> Tractors and elsewhere, but always looking for more good advise to avoid<br>> $$$$ mistakes.<br>><br>> If money were not object....well, it alwasy is...and compromises will have<br>> to be made! Anyway, I am thinking of a building about 40' wide by 70' to<br>> 75' long. Of course, as someone said, such buildings all come in one<br>> size----"too small." Of course, what is defintely too small is the<br>> pocket book....so many tractors and so little time!!!<br>><br>> Shop will be at one end about 24' by 40' with a 5" to 6" cement slab. The<br>> rest will be storage with crush rock or cement or something like that<br>> floor. I am thinking of two overhead doors (one at each end) perhaps 12'<br>> wide and 14' high, along with two walk in doors and maybe two or
three<br>> windows.<br>><br>> I have been looking various pole barn manufacturers (Morton, Wicks,<br>> Cleary, Meinards, Lester, etc.). Even done some looking at all steel<br>> buildings. Lots of variables and hard to sort them all out (insulation,<br>> guage of metal, heating, lighting (amount and type), windows, wiring, size<br>> of building, doors, etc.) Quite willing to learn from positive and not<br>> so positive experiences of others.<br>><br>> Right now I am thinking of having one of the pole building manufactures<br>> build the frame and shell, and I work on the insulation, wiring, lighting,<br>> etc. later. Those things really add to the price and wonder if doing some<br>> myself and contractoring some out to others might be cheaper than have the<br>> pole building people do it.<br>><br>> So welcome any and all thoughts....and thanks in advance.<br>><br>><br>> Larry Hardesty<br>> Kearney, Nebraska
68849-2240<br>> 308-865-8535<br>> 308-865-8722 fax<br>> hardestyll at unk.edu<br>> --=_alternative 004CA0398625714D_=<br>> Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"<br>><br>><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Folks, I think this is only <br>> slightly<br>> off topic. I am thinking of building (or having built) a building<br>> to serve as a shop and storage building for my tractors. I have look<br>> at various posts on Yesterday's Tractors and elsewhere, but always looking<br>> for more good advise to avoid $$$$ mistakes.</font><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">If money were not object....well, it<br>> alwasy is...and compromises will have to be made! Anyway, I am <br>> thinking<br>> of a building about 40' wide by 70' to 75' long. Of course, as <br>> someone<br>> said, such buildings all come in one size----"too small." <br>> Of course, what
is defintely too small is the pocket book....so many<br>> tractors and so little time!!! </font><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Shop will be at one end about 24' by<br>> 40' with a 5" to 6" cement slab. The rest will be storage<br>> with crush rock or cement or something like that floor. I am <br>> thinking<br>> of two overhead doors (one at each end) perhaps 12' wide and 14' high,<br>> along with two walk in doors and maybe two or three windows.</font><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">I have been looking various pole barn<br>> manufacturers (Morton, Wicks, Cleary, Meinards, Lester, etc.). Even<br>> done some looking at all steel buildings. Lots of variables and<br>> hard to sort them all out (insulation, guage of metal, heating, lighting<br>> (amount and type), windows, wiring, size of building, doors, etc.) <br>> Quite willing to learn from positive and
not so positive experiences of<br>> others. </font><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2"> Right now I am thinking of having<br>> one of the pole building manufactures build the frame and shell, and I<br>> work on the insulation, wiring, lighting, etc. later. Those things<br>> really add to the price and wonder if doing some myself and contractoring<br>> some out to others might be cheaper than have the pole building people<br>> do it. </font><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">So welcome any and all thoughts....and<br>> thanks in advance.</font><br>> <br><br>> <br><br>> <br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Larry Hardesty<br><br>> Kearney, Nebraska 68849-2240<br><br>> 308-865-8535<br><br>> 308-865-8722 fax<br><br>> hardestyll at unk.edu</font><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Farmall mailing list<br>>
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