[AT] OT Heating with wood

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Thu Sep 29 13:28:37 PDT 2005


Thanks for all the comments guys.  I agree with all that has been said I 
just have to figure out the economics.  Mike, you are right about the long 
term payout.  However, we are planning to move out of this  place pretty 
soon.  We've been looking for another place for about a year and just 
haven't found the right place yet.  As soon as we do we are out of here so 
that is why I'm not worried about the long term payout.

I only used about 300 gals of fuel last winter.  It just doesn't get that 
cold down here most years.  At worst I figure I will use 500 gals.  If it 
costs a buck more than it did last year I'm still only out $500.
The only reasons I'm thinking about using wood is that I have the stove.  It 
is over in my mom's garage at the farm going to no use.  I have a friend who 
changed his fireplace to gas logs last year and he has about 2 or 3 cords of 
good seasoned oak he will give me.

I realize the problem with the insurance coverage so I want to do it well 
enough to get by them if I do it.  Now it's time to sharpen my pencil.

Charlie
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From: "Michael P. Maynard" <mmaynard at rochester.rr.com>
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> The biggest reason code is setup to not allow this is because using this
> method, chimney fires are a lot more common.  If you take care of your
> chimney/fireplace, it shouldn't be a big deal.  I have an insert in my 
> fire
> place that you just slide in, and seal up the front.  The major trick is, 
> to
> pull it it out periodically and clean out around it and such where the
> creosote may have fallen.  I would say if you clean your chimney often, 
> and
> clean around your plate etc.  You should be fine.
>
> Also keep in mind Charlie, that while the first year, it may be more
> expensive to setup the stove, do you really think fuel prices will drop 
> for
> next year?  I spent almost $2k putting my chimney in, and installing my 
> free
> wood boiler.  I bet it paid for itself in the first 2 years...
>
> Mike
>
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
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> Subject: Re: [AT] OT Heating with wood
>
> Thanks Mike that is kinda what I had in mind.  I saw the SS flex pipe on a
> web site and considering what it is it really isn't all that expensive.  I
> think 12 feet will get me up the chimney far enough  to be clear of the 
> roof
>
> and maybe all the way out.
>
> Greg I am sure you are right about the cost of doing it to code and I do
> want it to be safe but if it cost that much to install it I'm a LOT better
> off to just keep burning fuel oil.  Even if it goes to $3.00 a gal.
>
> Charlie
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> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:03 PM
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>
>
>> Charlie,
>> A few years ago, I installed a Lopi insert into an existing masonary
>> fireplace. I removed the damper, and made a plate out of 1/8" steel. 
>> After
>
>> cutting a hole in the plate, I secured it to the inside of the fireplace
>> with some high temp furnace cement. Then I ran an 8' section of stainless
>> flex pipe up into the chimney. I had a two story house, and had no
>> problems with this setup.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -- "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net> wrote:
>> With the price of fuel I'm thinking of going back to good old wood heat.
>> The easiest and cheapest way for me to do that is to place a wood stove
>> that
>> I have (modern type slow burn built of of steel plate and lined with fire
>> brick) in front of and partially in my fireplace.
>>
>> I need opinions on the best way to connect the pipe from the heater too
>> the
>> damper opening in the fireplace.  My thinking is to make a plate to fit 
>> in
>> the place of the damper with a square to round adapter from the plate to
>> the
>> stove pipe.   I don't want kreosote dripping into the fireplace and I 
>> sure
>> don't want a chimney fire.  Any ideas?
>>
>> If I can get this rigged up cheap enough maybe my tractor can haul some
>> wood
>> this winter.  If it's going to cost a lot to make it work I may be better
>> off paying for fuel.
>>
>> Charlie
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