[AJD] Unusual looking Model L

Thu Sep 15 19:45:17 PDT 2005

Dean,

That is a pretty strong statement:
"I know of no
author who has published anything w/o significant errors."

Who is knowledgeable enough to identify "significant errors" in "anything 
published"?  I'd like to meet him/her... .  Having published in the 
scientific field and gone through the review process, I must disagree with 
your statement from a professional point of view.  Or perhaps you were 
thinking of a more limited perspective - surely not the Bible, for 
example..., or J. R.'s books :).
Duane Larson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L

>I too agree with JR's desire to have all authors publishing accurate data.
> However, there are those in the publishing field who consider themselves 
> the
> "correct police" who criticize other publisher's mistakes when they
> themselves have dirty linen. One needs to be careful how critical one
> becomes unless one is dealing from a reference of perfection. I know of no
> author who has published anything w/o significant errors. The desire to 
> get
> those errors corrected in a timely matter is more important to me that the
> fact the errors occurred to begin with.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Bus Driver
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>
> I strongly agree with JR and appreciate the information he posted. For 
> those
> who wish to investigate a matter further, wrong information hinders such a
> search. NEVER has a newspaper quoted me correctly and rarely do they get 
> my
> letter to the editor correct. Locally a full gasoline tanker crashed into 
> a
> bridge support on the Interstate and burned. The bridge collapsed. It was
> reported that the weight of the HOT asphalt bridge surfacing caused the
> collapse. Until informed by the media, I had no idea that HOT asphalt
> weighed more than it does when cold.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.R. Hobbs" <jrhobbs2004 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>
>
>> Well, I guess you're entitled to your opinion.  Parts of the story are
> true, sort of, but development of a small tractor didn't begin at Deere at
> the behest of just one man. No doubt that the man mentioned  certainly may
> have had some input on the design, and may have done some field testing, 
> but
> I know for a fact that work had begun before 1936.  There are other errors
> in the story as well, but I won't dwell on them. The first "Y", and "62"
> Tractors certainly didn't sell for $375.00. The timeline described in the
> story just plain is not true.  There were other inaccuracies as 
> well----The
> President of Deere at the time was Charles Deere Wiman, not John Deere
> Wyman, etc.
>>
>> The point is, when this kind of stuff gets published, it somehow becomes
> "fact", and I guess that I just don't like to see inaccurate information
> published. I have no problem with a tribute to someone. I just want it to 
> be
> factual, because these kinds of errors do the hobby a disservice, in my
> view.
>>
>> And, quite frankly, I'm sick to death of the "correct police" bullshit,
> which is a favorite term on a website I won't bother to mention.  I don't
> believe that being correct as possible with information and/or restoration
> is wrong.  The term is misunderstood, anyway, as it was coined to describe
> those people who think they know it all, but actually don't know much of
> anything, yet feel that they have the right to criticize the work of 
> others.
> I've not yet seen a restoration I couldn't find a flaw in if I looked hard
> enough, but it's not my business to say anything about it to the owner.
> Most people do the best they can with the knowledge they have, and the
> budget they have to work with. On the other hand, there are people who 
> take
> no little pride in doing as many things as wrong as they can, because they
> somehow percieve that it's going to irritate people. That's their choice, 
> I
> guess.
>>
>> Chris C <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> JR -
>>
>> I think that's pretty poor to poo poo a story in
>> a local paper about a piece of history returning to
>> the area, with the story being told be family members
>> about the actions of another family member.
>>
>> I don't know enough about the background behind
>> the design of that tractor to know the truth, but I
>> wonder who would twist the truth more? The
>> manufacturer of the machine, or the guy that designed
>> or helped design it.. Sound like the correct police
>> to me...
>>
>> Or perhaps I am just oversensitive given my highly
>> agitatable state...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --- "J.R. Hobbs" wrote:
>>
>> > Not tonight, Frank, I have a headache. :-)
>> >
>> > Frank wrote:J>R>
>> > tell us more.........
>> >
>> > Frank
>> > gremaux at tein.net
>> > Central Montana
>> > http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "J.R. Hobbs"
>> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>> >
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:27 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Unusual looking Model L
>> >
>> >
>> > > Nice tractor. Parts of the story are even almost
>> > true.
>> > >
>> > > Louis R Godena
>> > >
>> >
>>
> wrote:http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2005/09/09/local.20050909-sbt-
> MICH-B1-Homecoming_parade_of.sto
>> > >
>> > > And, good story too!
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