[AT] Gasoline $ another view

[Dudley Rupert]

George,

As I said a few minutes ago in my response to Mike's post I was wrong when I
said a barrel of crude contains 33 gallons.  Just as I know a gallon of milk
contains 4 quarts I know a barrel of crude contains 42 gallons but what I
don't know now is why I was thinking last night that it was 33 gallons.

In Mike's post he gave the breakdown of a 42 gallon barrel and it shows that
the gasoline content is a bit less than half.  In the refining process I
don't know whether or not there is an economical way to "forcibly" change
the ratio; that is, can you get more gasoline and say less home heating oil
or vice versa.

Dudley
Snohomish, Washington


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Dudley,

Thank you for a rational, rather than an emotional response to this thread.

It's very easy for us as greedy consumers ( we channel our greed toward
looking for the lowest possible, and maybe unreasonable price)to condemn
greedy suppliers (who are simply trying to sell a product in short supply at
a reasonable price).

If we look rationally, we can easily see that the price at the pump
represents a contract between a willing buyer and a willing seller.  We want
to buy it for $.399 and they can't sell it for less than it costs them to
have it available at the pump.  If the price is more than you're willing to
pay, walk on by the pump... they won't be mad.

Why do any of us have to commute long distances?  Because of poor choices we
made about where we live or work... that isn't the fault of our fuel
supplier, nor should it be the responsibility of the taxpayer to give us
relief.

Of course we need a national energy policy, and to ignore the "greenies".

Question:  Is the 33 gallons you quote the actual gasoline contained in a 42
gallon barrel of crude?

George Willer

----- Original Message -----
From: Dudley Rupert [mailto:drupert at premier1.net]
Sent: 9/1/2005 2:54:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [AT] Gasoline $

> This is not political ether (so please don't try and make it such) but
just
> an observation -
>
> I was just reading part of an interview that a Sunoco executive in
Colorado
> gave to a News outlet earlier today.  He said that if the US had more
> refinery capacity it would certainly alleviate some of the short-term
stress
> on the market that is caused when a refinery is shut down for maintenance
or
> when a disaster strikes it.  And he noted that there hasn't been a new
> refinery built in the US in the last 25 years.  But he went on to say that
> our bigger problem is long term and it is the lack of an adequate supply
of
> crude.
>
> If as a nation we are unwilling - for whatever reason - to explore/drill
for
> new sources of crude (for example, in ANWAR or the Santa Barbara channel)
> and to build more nuclear power plants to help solve our near term energy
> needs and to make a national commitment (like the Kennedy commitment to
put
> a man on the moon by the end of the sixties) to finding alternative energy
> sources then it seems to me we shouldn't be surprised when we see the
> numbers we do on the gas pumps.  A barrel of crude contains 33 gallons and
> with crude trading at 65 to 70 dollars a barrel it means that when a crew
> docks a tanker and starts loading it costs them 2 dollars a gallon.
Adding
> in the shipping costs, refinery costs, federal and local gas taxes and a
> little markup for the retail station it's not surprising that the first
> digit on the gallon cost at the pump is fast becoming a "3".
>
> Since the first of the summer I've bought 27 cans of gas and 4 cans of
> diesel to run my hobby tractors ... I think I may have to permanently park
> them and start looking for a hybrid antique tractor.
>
> Dudley
> Snohomish, Washington



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