[AT] Re[2]: [Farmall] running a Farmall H on ethanol

Steve W. falcon at telenet.net
Mon Sep 5 09:32:59 PDT 2005


Larry, keep in mind that any blend of alcohol over 10% voids the
warrantee on most vehicles built in the US. That is one thing the folks
who are mandating the higher level blends haven't figured out the answer
to yet. The officials don't seem to care about it.

Steve Williams

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AT] Re[2]: [Farmall] running a Farmall H on ethanol


> Thanks for speaking out, Spencer.  I appreciate it.  My wife and I
just
> returned from spending nearly a month on the road touring across the
> country everywhere from western Pennsylvania to central Colorado and
> back.  Of course the octane rating of the available gas blend changes
> considerably across the country depending on the elevation etc.
Typical
> low grade gas in the low elevations is 87, but along the eastern slope
> of the Rockies, it's 85.  All across Nebraska and Iowa, they're
blending
> the low grade gas with ethanol to get the mid-grade fuel but are
selling
> it for less than the low grade because of subsidies.  I used the
ethanol
> blend (89) in the Jeep for better than 1000 miles and had better
mileage
> with it than with the regular blend.  If I have the story right, the
> ethanol blend is now mandated in Iowa.
>
> Casey's convenience stores typically sell two grades of gasoline --
> unleaded regular and the ethanol blend. Their pricing varies, but most
> of the time they sell both octanes at the same price and every once in
a
> while the ethanol blend is a nickel per gallon cheaper.  But of course
> I'm talking about what conditions were like before Katrina.
>
> As we are accustomed to saying on this list -- YMMV.  :-)
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer
Yost
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re[2]: [AT] Re[2]: [Farmall] running a Farmall H on ethanol
>
> The purpose of my original post was simply correct a very common
> misconception and hopefully instill some semblance of academic rigor
to
> the
> debate and not let people get away with saying whatever they want to
say
> without justification, verification, supporting data and the like.
The
> purpose was NOT to advocate ethanol as a viable alternative to
gasoline.
>
> Also, I could not corroborate your data.   All the sources I checked
> (fueleconomyone.com, the EPA, etc), all listed about a 20% drop in
> economy,
> not the 66%+ you indicated.  Must have been some other problems with
> your
> vehicle(ie tuning, etc).
>
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
> Plow the Net!
> http://www.atis.net
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 9/4/2005 at 3:20 PM DAVIESW739 at aol.com wrote:
>
> >Spencer after being involved in one the  government studies using 85
> >percent
> >ethanol and 15 percent gasoline I can tell  you that those figures
had
> to
> >be
> >made up or just plain biased because in the  actual test we burned as
> much
> >gas
> >as we would have before the change over. also  we had to burn all
that
> >ethanol.
> >I wonder where some people get there test  figures from. We sure
> couldn't
> >do
> >any better 5 to 6 MPG in a Chevy S 10 4  banger. Had to put a 40
gallon
> >fuel
> >tank on them to get back home from a town  trip.
> >
> >Of course we may have just been bad drivers or something thing like
> that
> >but
> >I still say its not going to work and if it did them why don't we see
> >more
> >of it. I would like to use ethanol if it was practical but its not.
> >
> >Walt Davies
> >Cooper Hollow Farm
> >Monmouth, OR 97361
> >503 623-0460
> >
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