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[Mattias Kessén]

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Skickat: den 27 oktober 2005 08:43
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> I've never heard of anyone making the concrete thicker because of the
> heattubing, but then of course we things our way ;-) As I said earlier
> thicken the concrete were you have loads like under the stove if it's heavy,
> we usually use about 4" inch in most places and 5" in heavier industries.
> The mainreasons why we use that much insulation is high energycosts (if I
> could by oil at your prices, like we did 20 years ago why insulate the
> floor? Not really but anyway) The energycosts will hardly become much lower
> in the future.
> If you were to store heat why do it in an uninsulted area? think about it,
> if you really think you have need for heatstorage why not use insulated
> watertanks (like I would do anyway) or maybe thicker concrete or gravel
> between insulation and concrete.
> 
> Only some thoughts
> 
> /Mattias
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> 
> Thanks for all of your input on radiant heat.  Someone asked me about the
> stove.  The only ID I found on the stove is a brass plate on the front that
> says Omega.  I looked around on the net and couldnt find a picture for you.
> The stove is about 1/4" plate construction about 36"W 18"D & 36"H?  The
> stack comes out the top and the top plates are slanted instead of having a
> flat surface.  The stove has a heavy steel door with round air vents the
> thread open and closed (I often see these on inserts)  Underneath is a
> damper & ash pan.  This stove has a built in blower as well.  The
> consrtuction of the blower is pretty neat.  The blower blows air from front
> to back through a duct that actually goes through the firebox.  This system
> must be pretty darn good at taking heat from the fire and putting it in the
> room.  Overall the unit is heavy duty and pretty nice.  It was probably made
> for inside of a house.  Someone else mentioned bubble wrap as insulation.  I
> actually saw this product advertised for this purpose while I was searching
> for info on the web.  I was really surprised that one of our members from a
> Scandanavian coutry said that they use up to 250mm of foam under the slab.
> 250mm = 9.84"  (1" = 25.4mm)!  Those guys definitely aren't losing heat to
> the ground.  One site that I visited suggested that you insulate around the
> perimiter but leave an area in the center uninsulated.  They said that the
> soil would act as a heat sink in this area storing heat in case of a power
> outage.  A member of SIAM is a retired concrete finisher and I asked for his
> input.  He said that everyone who has it loves it and there aren't many
> problems.  One thing he suggested was a thicker slab as he thought that the
> imbedded tubing may weaken the floor a bit.  I tend to agree whith his
> thinking.  Has anyone heard that the floor should be thicker?  How much?
> 
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