[AT] Visiting ATIS members during 9/18 trip

Sat Oct 1 06:56:45 PDT 2005

Charlie,

More information on Herb's problem.  The battery was drained completely... 
dead as a dodo.  Disconnecting it and using a boost pack produced no sound 
at all from the solenoid when the starter position on the ignition was 
tried.  It will be interesting to see if Herb finds a bad solenoid, but the 
completely discharged battery is a mystery. ???

The starter and solenoid are behind a panel we didn't remove, but the anchor 
bolt for the starter is visible.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
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Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Visiting ATIS members during 9/18 trip

> Sometimes the starter drive will stick in the flywheel.  Put the tractor 
> in high gear and rock it back and forth by pulling and pushing on the rear 
> tire treads.  That might shake it loose.  If that doesn't work there is a 
> tapered end bolt with a lock nut that holds the starter in the bell 
> housing/torque tube.  Back it out far enough to shake the starter.
>
> Those are the things I would try.   If that doesn't work you will learn to 
> hold your mouth right while you try to get the starter out from under the 
> fuel tank.
>
> Sounds like you had a good trip.  12.5 mpg isn't bad pulling that much 
> load! Not good with gas prices this high but still not bad.
>
> Lynn went to London a few years ago and forgot to tell the bank.
> After about 3 days into a 2 week trip the bank started calling.   I told 
> them she was in London on a trip but they weren't taking my word for it. 
> They kept telling me to have her call them.  I kept explaining that I 
> didn't even know how to reach her.  They kept calling back.  I couldn't 
> tell her because I had not even heard from her myself.  I was afraid they 
> would cut off her card.  I wanted to know what was being bought with the 
> card so that I would know if it was her using it.  The bank 
> wouldn't/couldn't tell me that.  Luckily I know some folks that are fairly 
> high placed in that bank. They got it taken care of for me.
>
> Charlie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herbert Metz" <metz-h.b at mindspring.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Visiting ATIS members during 9/18 trip
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>
>> Charlie
>> Yes, we had a good trip (except 1340 miles / 12.5 mpg is $300 for 
>> gasoline). We had to call our credit card co. half way through our return 
>> trip and properly identify ourself as they had placed a block on our 
>> card. I should have informed them of our plans before making the trip.
>> First impression was good; it started right away and I backed out of 
>> Georges shed, drove it down his driveway and back, then onto the trailer.
>> Second impression was not so good; attempted to start it and move a 
>> couple inches. Ugh; the starter apparently locked.   We tried a couple 
>> things, then disconnected the battery and put the hood back on, rolled it 
>> a couple inches and tied it down.   When we got home I backed the trailer 
>> into the shed far enough that Barbara and I could easily roll it off. 
>> Seriously used my $30 special sale 12 volt winch from Harbor Freight for 
>> first time. Called the p.o. and he had not experienced starter problems 
>> (since a rebuild two years ago).  Will take it loose tomorrow (after a 
>> farm equipment sale) and tap on starter, etc.
>> P.O. mailed the operators manual today; he and George had such a good 
>> tour and visit at Georges that he completely forgot to leave the manual. 
>> This is the first tractor that I ever drove without knowing anything 
>> about it; a rather uneasy feeling.  Obviously, I had not done my 
>> homework.   The p.o. currently is without computer, but that is no 
>> excuse.
>> Herb
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Visiting ATIS members during 9/18 trip
>>
>>
>>> Herb it sounds like you had a great trip.  How do you like your D14 so 
>>> far?
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Herbert Metz" <metz-h.b at mindspring.com>
>>> To: <AT at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:05 AM
>>> Subject: [AT] Visiting ATIS members during 9/18 trip
>>>
>>>
>>> Barbara and I certainly enjoyed the hospitality of the Willers and the 
>>> Dotsons during our 9/27-28 trip to Ohio to pick up a D14 bought from an 
>>> AC enthusiast in New York.  He delivered it to the Willers the previous 
>>> week when he attended an AC sale in Indiana.  George had rearranged his 
>>> shed (Allis, Case, Ford, IHC H and M, plus many Cubs) to make room for 
>>> one more.
>>> Yes, George, our loading was well done.   I never made any adjustments; 
>>> that is saying quite a bit when one travels 690 miles and includes 
>>> Kentucky interstates (they are rough).
>>> After enjoying Marilyns good cooking and a nice overnight stay, we hit 
>>> the road for the Dotsons.  We had toured Georges shops (full line for 
>>> wookwork and full line for metal work and his shed full of tractors) 
>>> last year when we stopped in for Sunday brunch on our return from 
>>> Canandaigua, NY show. Our visit at Gene Dotsons included visiting with 
>>> Gene, brother Gary and his wife Regina and a tour of Genes farm, shed 
>>> full of Case tractors plus good looking Maule airplane, airstrip, White 
>>> combine and many implements. Then on to brother Larry and wife Barbara 
>>> Dotsons where we toured their shed full of IHC Cubs, his exceptional 
>>> restored Cockshut, and several other tractors and implements.   Larry 
>>> has several projects in process including an Allis G restoration for 
>>> some guy way down in GA, and he still works full time.
>>> Thank You Barbara for the good written directions for getting back to 
>>> I-65 while also avoiding Dayton.  Those directions also took us through 
>>> West Liberty where we noticed a couple sitting out front of a store 
>>> eating icecream cones.  Wooohh!   $1.00 for a huge scoop of delicious 
>>> icecream. (Note to Larry Goss, store was on southwest corner of 
>>> intersection).
>>> We had gone about five miles when Gene phoned and said Barbara had 
>>> noticed the trailer brake lights were not working when we left their 
>>> place.  Sure enough; I wiggled the plug and they worked ok the rest of 
>>> the trip. Thank You again Barbara.
>>> The rest of the trip home went well.   However, I did drive on the left 
>>> side of the road through much of KY, because of the right side being so 
>>> rough. I do not like doing that but this was middle of the night and our 
>>> trailer has five lights across the rear.
>>> Time did not permit a visit to Gary and Regina's to tour their 
>>> collection of Leaders and an exceptional restored Cockshut; maybe next 
>>> year.
>>> Herb
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