[AT] re : hayride / accidents

David Bruce davidbruce at yadtel.net
Wed Nov 2 13:42:34 PST 2005


I'm not arguing fault and, of course, the people affected didn't deserve 
anything like that but again I say better to be wrong than to be DEAD RIGHT.
Fault is one thing but regardless of who is at fault the people affected were 
affected.

David

Almost-Running Deere wrote:
> Maybe but that doen't given trucks the right to run them down either.  
> The truck driver has a little safety responsibility as well. Very cold 
> not to feel for the people that were killed and example of what is wrong 
> with the world when we say "those people were killed but it was their 
> fault"
> 
> 
>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
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>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:41:12 -0500
>>
>> No doubt that the truck driver was in the wrong (unless there is more 
>> to the story that we havn't heard).  The folks on the wagon were 
>> right....DEAD RIGHT.  Just becuase it's legal or right doesn't mean 
>> it's safe.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Almost-Running Deere" 
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>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:04 AM
>> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
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>>
>>> A couple of years ago my neighbor got hit by a guy who reached down 
>>> to answer his cell phone.  Both the tractor and grain wagon had 
>>> flashing lights and SMV signs.  It was broad dayligh.  Last I heard 
>>> if you hit anything from behind, it is your fault even if it is a 
>>> slow moving car. Let alone if you are drunk.   In the area where I 
>>> live there is increasing development but it is not uncommon to see 
>>> farm equipment on the roadmany people to not repect it or provide 
>>> sufficient clearence..........  Still not Ok to hit it because it 
>>> isn't moving to suit you.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
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>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>>>> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:07:53 -0800
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most - 
>>>> can be
>>>> viewed from several different angles.  I am just curious if those of 
>>>> you who
>>>> are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any 
>>>> differently if
>>>> say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than 
>>>> with kids?
>>>> When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an 
>>>> unexpected
>>>> object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is 
>>>> lit up
>>>> with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to 
>>>> encounter one
>>>> on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes 
>>>> are in the
>>>> locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air). 
>>>> Anyhow,
>>>> if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would 
>>>> think -
>>>> just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
>>>> driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged 
>>>> wagon/tractor and
>>>> for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.  
>>>> In the
>>>> case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in 
>>>> it but
>>>> rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor 
>>>> driver a
>>>> big S for stupidity.  But, from a purely objective standpoint, I 
>>>> don't see
>>>> what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would 
>>>> have to
>>>> do with determining blame/liability.  I believe that the tractor 
>>>> driver,
>>>> while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should 
>>>> not be
>>>> held liable.  But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple 
>>>> suits,
>>>> involving multiple defendants, will be brought.  And as I said 
>>>> above, this
>>>> accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably 
>>>> not the
>>>> right one to be viewing it from.
>>>>
>>>> Just my rambling/opinion -
>>>> Dudley
>>>> Snohomish, Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >You  know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big 
>>>> flashing
>>>> >lights I  don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>>> >seeing the
>>>> >tractor  and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>>> >trailer I
>>>> >think the  semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>>> >Then why would you go for a hayride on  a freeway. We use back road 
>>>> and
>>>> >pasture trails out here.
>>>> >Walt  Davies
>>>>
>>>> The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad 
>>>> about the
>>>> others who were hurt or killed!
>>>>          Dave
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