[AT] re : hayride / accidents

[David Bruce]

Charlie, you just mentioned something that a former boss of mine just to say all 
the time - "right is right but I never want to be DEAD RIGHT".
Here there is considerable traffic of various farm vehicles and the people that 
live here look out for such but ...
David


charlie hill wrote:
> No doubt that the truck driver was in the wrong (unless there is more to 
> the story that we havn't heard).  The folks on the wagon were 
> right....DEAD RIGHT.  Just becuase it's legal or right doesn't mean it's 
> safe.
> 
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Almost-Running Deere" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
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> 
>> A couple of years ago my neighbor got hit by a guy who reached down to 
>> answer his cell phone.  Both the tractor and grain wagon had flashing 
>> lights and SMV signs.  It was broad dayligh.  Last I heard if you hit 
>> anything from behind, it is your fault even if it is a slow moving 
>> car. Let alone if you are drunk.   In the area where I live there is 
>> increasing development but it is not uncommon to see farm equipment on 
>> the roadmany people to not repect it or provide sufficient 
>> clearence..........  Still not Ok to hit it because it isn't moving to 
>> suit you.
>>
>>
>>> From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
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>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>>> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:07:53 -0800
>>>
>>> It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most - 
>>> can be
>>> viewed from several different angles.  I am just curious if those of 
>>> you who
>>> are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any 
>>> differently if
>>> say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than 
>>> with kids?
>>> When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an 
>>> unexpected
>>> object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is 
>>> lit up
>>> with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to 
>>> encounter one
>>> on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes are 
>>> in the
>>> locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air). 
>>> Anyhow,
>>> if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would 
>>> think -
>>> just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
>>> driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged 
>>> wagon/tractor and
>>> for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.  
>>> In the
>>> case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in 
>>> it but
>>> rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor 
>>> driver a
>>> big S for stupidity.  But, from a purely objective standpoint, I 
>>> don't see
>>> what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would 
>>> have to
>>> do with determining blame/liability.  I believe that the tractor driver,
>>> while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should 
>>> not be
>>> held liable.  But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple 
>>> suits,
>>> involving multiple defendants, will be brought.  And as I said above, 
>>> this
>>> accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably not 
>>> the
>>> right one to be viewing it from.
>>>
>>> Just my rambling/opinion -
>>> Dudley
>>> Snohomish, Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>>
>>>
>>> >You  know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big 
>>> flashing
>>> >lights I  don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>> >seeing the
>>> >tractor  and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>> >trailer I
>>> >think the  semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>> >Then why would you go for a hayride on  a freeway. We use back road and
>>> >pasture trails out here.
>>> >Walt  Davies
>>>
>>> The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad 
>>> about the
>>> others who were hurt or killed!
>>>          Dave
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