[AT] re : hayride / accidents

Wed Nov 2 07:02:00 PST 2005

I'm no sure about the type of road it was in the SC case, but around 
these parts in Pennsylvania a lot of country roads are also very 
swerving and hilly. When you travel west of here into Amish country it 
can be really dangerous for the Amish folk when out-of-towners or even 
locals come barreling down the country roads and over a blind hill at 35 
miles an hour over the speed limit.

charlie hill wrote:

> Hi Dudley,
>
> I don't disagree with you or Walt about tractors on the road.  In 
> fact, here in NC, farm tractors have the right of way on all roads 
> except interstate highways.  However, it is STILL dangerous.  You know 
> yourself that when you are driving 60 or 65 and you come up on a 
> tractor going 13 mph it is easy to over take the tractor faster than 
> you think you are going too.  That  is dangerous enough with a load of 
> corn or hay behind you but not with your family and friends providing 
> the cushion between you and the bumper of the truck.
>
> As for the driver being charged with a DWI.  Maybe he was drunk and if 
> so he doesn't need to be on the highway but hold your breath for a few 
> days.  The legal blood alcohol limit for commercial drivers is WAY 
> lower than it is for other drivers in most states.   I think it is .02 
> compared to .08 here. You can blow a .02 from rinsing your mouth with 
> mouth wash or chewing sugar free gum.
>
> It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Either way I'm 
> sorry for the dead, the injured, their families and everyone involved.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
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> Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
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>
>> It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most - 
>> can be
>> viewed from several different angles.  I am just curious if those of 
>> you who
>> are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any 
>> differently if
>> say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than 
>> with kids?
>> When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an 
>> unexpected
>> object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is 
>> lit up
>> with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to 
>> encounter one
>> on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes are 
>> in the
>> locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air). 
>> Anyhow,
>> if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would 
>> think -
>> just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
>> driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged 
>> wagon/tractor and
>> for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.  
>> In the
>> case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in 
>> it but
>> rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor 
>> driver a
>> big S for stupidity.  But, from a purely objective standpoint, I 
>> don't see
>> what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would 
>> have to
>> do with determining blame/liability.  I believe that the tractor driver,
>> while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should 
>> not be
>> held liable.  But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple 
>> suits,
>> involving multiple defendants, will be brought.  And as I said above, 
>> this
>> accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably not 
>> the
>> right one to be viewing it from.
>>
>> Just my rambling/opinion -
>> Dudley
>> Snohomish, Washington
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>>
>>
>>> You  know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big 
>>> flashing
>>> lights I  don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>> seeing the
>>> tractor  and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>> trailer I
>>> think the  semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>> Then why would you go for a hayride on  a freeway. We use back road and
>>> pasture trails out here.
>>> Walt  Davies
>>
>>
>> The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad 
>> about the
>> others who were hurt or killed!
>>         Dave
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