[AT] re : hayride / accidents

[charlie hill]

Hi Dudley,

I don't disagree with you or Walt about tractors on the road.  In fact, here 
in NC, farm tractors have the right of way on all roads except interstate 
highways.  However, it is STILL dangerous.  You know yourself that when you 
are driving 60 or 65 and you come up on a tractor going 13 mph it is easy to 
over take the tractor faster than you think you are going too.  That  is 
dangerous enough with a load of corn or hay behind you but not with your 
family and friends providing the cushion between you and the bumper of the 
truck.

As for the driver being charged with a DWI.  Maybe he was drunk and if so he 
doesn't need to be on the highway but hold your breath for a few days.  The 
legal blood alcohol limit for commercial drivers is WAY lower than it is for 
other drivers in most states.   I think it is .02 compared to .08 here. 
You can blow a .02 from rinsing your mouth with mouth wash or chewing sugar 
free gum.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Either way I'm sorry for 
the dead, the injured, their families and everyone involved.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:07 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] re : hayride / accidents


> It seems to me that this accident - like probably many if not most - can 
> be
> viewed from several different angles.  I am just curious if those of you 
> who
> are inclined to unload on the tractor driver would feel any differently if
> say the tractor were pulling a wagon loaded with corn rather than with 
> kids?
> When in farming country I would think that a tractor is not an unexpected
> object to be encountered on public roads and further that if it is lit up
> with lots of lights then it wouldn't be abnormal to expect to encounter 
> one
> on the road at night (I say this having no idea what the statutes are in 
> the
> locality where the accident occurred so this may be just hot air). 
> Anyhow,
> if the truck driver had of hit a wagon loaded with corn then I would 
> think -
> just my opinion mind you - that the tractor driver would sue the truck
> driver for damages on behalf of the lost corn and damaged wagon/tractor 
> and
> for any pain/suffering/lost work that he incurred due to being hit.  In 
> the
> case of this accident, unfortunately, the wagon didn't have corn in it but
> rather kids and for this I am sure we would all give the tractor driver a
> big S for stupidity.  But, from a purely objective standpoint, I don't see
> what the contents of the wagon - as long as they are legal - would have to
> do with determining blame/liability.  I believe that the tractor driver,
> while having done a foolish thing with tragic consequences, should not be
> held liable.  But ... my opinion is irrelevant as I am sure multiple 
> suits,
> involving multiple defendants, will be brought.  And as I said above, this
> accident can be viewed from different angles and this is probably not the
> right one to be viewing it from.
>
> Just my rambling/opinion -
> Dudley
> Snohomish, Washington
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of Dave Rotigel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:50 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] re : hayride / accidents
>
>
>>You  know this tractor was lit up like a cristmas tree with big flashing
>>lights I  don't care if the trailr was totally dark how could you miss
>>seeing the
>>tractor  and if you were close your lights would surley light up the
>>trailer I
>>think the  semi driver is Deep Do Do on this one.
>>Then why would you go for a hayride on  a freeway. We use back road and
>>pasture trails out here.
>>Walt  Davies
>
> The guy driving the tractor got EXACTLY what he deserved! Too bad about 
> the
> others who were hurt or killed!
>         Dave
>
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