[AJD] late B

[Bill Brueck]

Once again, I do believe I have contributed more to the confusion than to 
the clarity of an issue, LOL.

The legend in my book reads the same.  So the list I posted, from the 1976 
version of this reference, is indeed closer to a model year listing.

B²
Bill Brueck (brick)
Chatfield, MN, USA

Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] late B


> Here is what the 1918 to 1987 version looks like:
>
> http://public.fotki.com/deanvp/reference/asae_books/1918-1987/
>
>
> Bill:
>
> I have found my version of the book.  It is the 1918 to 1987 version, with
> the embossed D on the front cover.
>
> This is the text on page 60 preceding the serial number lists:
>
> "The following serial numbers provide a means of determining a tractors 
> age.
> The number opposite each year designation is the beginning serial number 
> for
> that year for the model designated in the headline. Years are product 
> years
> (usually August 1 of the preceding calendar year to the following July 31)
> unless noted as follows: *Calendar Year; **Fiscal Year (November 1 to
> October 31). For convenience, tractors are listed alphabetically and
> numerically, rather than chronologically."
>
> I scanned a few models and for example the JD 50 serial number and year
> doesn't seem right to me. I have been led to believe through JR's books 
> that
> there were no 1952 model year (product year?) 50's shipped to customers.
> Some were built but not shipped to customers and the 50 release was 
> delayed
> to only 1953 model year due to a steel strike. But this book shows that 
> 1253
> (1952) 50's were shipped. I was aware that there were 1952 model year 60's
> shipped to customers but not 50's.
>
> I need to dig out my Lyle Cherry production records book and see what is 
> up.
>
>
> I don't yet appreciate why this is so confusing unless we are dealing with
> different author interpretations of the same hard copy records.
>
> Right now I am so confused that I suspect there is a different
> interpretation of Model year vs Product year vs Production year. That 
> would
> really mess things up. I suppose some of next years tractors could have 
> been
> built in the previous product year due to production scheduling issues.
>
> Is it really all that important?  No, but I have stumbled at shows
> occasionally when looking at an owners sign and questioning where they got
> their year designation vs the serial number. For example I've seen signs 
> at
> shows that define a 50 as a 1952 model.  I just wrote it off as the owner
> defining it as the calendar year it was built. However the above book 
> states
> there were 1952 models shipped.
>
> Vely Confusing!
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Dean VP
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 10:12 AM
> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [AJD] late B
>
> Bill:
>
> Thanks for posting this serial number list. I'm confused as to why this 
> list
> is being called a list based on "Calendar Year". If I understand what
> "Calendar Year" means the first B made on January 1, 1939 was serial #
> 60000. That isn't true.  So then I would call this list based on 
> production
> or model year.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door
>
>
> www.deerelegacy.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>
>
>
>
>
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