[AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade

[charlie hill]

By the way, thanks for mentioning the _Ultimate American Farm Tractor Data 
Book_.   That is a new one on me and I'd like to see a copy of it.  I'll run 
a search to see if it's still in print.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade


> Humm.  It wouldn't be the first time (or the last) that an author got
> something wrong.  My students used to think it was awfully presumptuous
> of me to question the truth of things that were published in their
> textbooks, but I told them that skepticism can be a healthy thing --
> particularly when it comes to things that get published.
>
> But in this case, it's a matter of a "loose nut behind the steering
> wheel."  I simply didn't read far enough in the actual data pages.  Both
> tests are listed.  It looks like the summer of 1932 was the "Year of the
> Caterpillar" for Nebraska Testing.  Seven tests in a row were run on
> various models of Caterpillars.
>
> Now, I wonder if any of them had blades on them.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>
> Larry the Nebraska test book shows two seperate tests 208 & 209.  They
> both
> look like the same crawler but they call the first one a "diesel" and
> the
> second (test 209) a model 65.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>
>
>> Another source is "Ultimate American Farm Tractor Data Book: Nebraska
>> test Tractors 1920-1960 by Lorry Dunning.  ISBN 0-7603-0477-7.  This
>> book has a chapter called "Power Test Timeline" that lists all the
>> firsts in the series.  I get the impression from reading Dunning that
>> the "Diesel" and the Cat. 65 tractors are one and the same.  But what
> do
>> I know?  The Cat. 65 is listed as test #208.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie
> hill
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:10 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>>
>> Looking through the Nebraska Tractor Test book,  the first Diesel
>> Crawler
>> they tested was Test No. 208 in July 1932.  It was a Caterpillar
>> "Diesel"
>> (apparently Diesel was the model name). The next one they tested was
> in
>> July
>> 1932 and it was a Cat model 65.
>>
>> It that wasn't the first diesel crawler it was most likely the first
>> reliable diesel crawler.  Nebraska tested it's first crawler in 1920
> so
>> if
>> there had been any out before the Caterpillar they most likely would
>> have
>> tested it.
>>
>> According to Norm Swinfords AC construction equipment book,
>> Monarch tested an Atlas Diesel in a model 75 in 1927 and it was tested
>> in
>> Montana as late as 1930 but never put into production.
>>
>> Reference for the librarian:
>>  Nebraska Tractor Tests Since 1920 by C.H. Wendel.
>>
>> Allis Chalmers Construction Machinery & Industrial Equipment
>> Norm Swinford,  Crestline Publishers,  ISBN 0-7603-0485-8
>>
>> Charlie Hill
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "JParks" <jkparks at flash.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:08 AM
>> Subject: [AT] "First" diesel crawler w/ Blade
>>
>>
>>> Below is a copy/paste of a question I rec'd from a librarian in hopes
>> of
>>> helping an inquiring patron.  (very helpful library!)  The question
>>> involves
>>> not just the "first" diesel powered crawler tractor, but the
> qualifier
>>
>>> that
>>> it be a "dozer", so the blade attachment comes into question too.
> All
>> I
>>> have is a WAG with a +/- of several years margin of area.  Can ya'll
>>> supply
>>> a more definitive and authoritative answer.  I will pass along all
>> your
>>> replies to the librarian.
>>> Thanks
>>> John Parks
>>> Boise, ID
>>> My name is Tonia Totten and I work at the Bristol Public Library and
>> I'm
>>> writing to you on behalf of a library patron who has a question that
>>> hopefully you will be able to answer. The patron wants to know when
>> the
>>> first diesel powered bulldozers were made
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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